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the only people complaining are the people that dont live in their space/arent competent enough to defend their space

It should have been pulped before it ever made it live.

We were forced to retaliate by trolling Insmother after they trolled the Spire.

Realty....

Did they come over to your house put a gun to your head and say entosis 600 things all night?

or did you at the time (before the 1st entosis cycle) think it would be super funny to troll entosis all there space in one go?

It seems to be promoting skirmishes but not battles. I would be concerned about the missing half of the equation if I was CCP.

+1

Signed on a personal level as a compromise.

Problem

Fozzie SOV is contrived. You wave a wand that has a fixed cycle time. You can not augment your ship to improve damage and grind the structure down. You can not augment your ship to repair the structure faster.
Shoot the Hairy Potthead fan who loves waving wands around.

Solution

- Cut carrier and dreadnaught DPS by 10%
- Heavily nerf Titan and Super Carrier DPS.
- Roll back to Dominion SOV and cut the hit points off the structures that you no longer need.

Additionally, find a way to hard limit how many Supers and Titans an alliance can have active in a system or region.

Causes for the stagnation

- No space for small independant corporations and alliances to grow big enough with the super / titan fleets to contest for space.
- The ships were the problem. Not the structures.

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Now you have ruined SOV for sub capitals. Our SOV has gone from building castles out of stone to building it out of plastic. It feels cheap, nasty and childish, catering to giggly little griefers that have too much energy and no patience.

Check Reddit. It is not only xxDeath, it is many other people from all over Null Sec.

Interesting.
Phoebe saw much change and fragmentation. Before and after.
Fozzie SOV is seeing fewer and larger coalitions.

... have fleet battles, will now have silly little gang / solo spats that could be better done in Low Sec if that is your style of playing the game.

I agree with a few of the pain points made, but strongly disagree on others.



Spreading fights out between systems was part of the original design of the Aegis sov system, to avoid creating a chokepoint where all battle activity must happen on one node, and to better use the resources of the server cluster housing New Eden. When we look at large scale battles like B-R5RB, 6VDT-H, and HED-GP they are remembered for their scale, but those who actually participated remember the sub 10% TiDi, lag, and 20-22 hour slogfests. Large blocs are quick to cry out that these battles are what gives EVE the best publicity, but we know that many of the pilots drawn in from these do not experience these type of epic battles, and leave due to incorrect expectations.



I strongly disagree with this, and I'm slightly amused by the large nullsec blocs comparing "sov trolling" to player harassment requiring GM tickets. HTFU.

Entosis is designed to influence the type of ships brought to contest nodes as little as possible. There may be some extreme cases that need to be dealt with, but there are viable counters you can bring to most of these situations. A 12km/s Vagabond orbiting the beacon at 250km? Park a T1 frigate with a T1 Entosis module on the beacon and pause their progress. Or hunt down their links ship and kill it instead. Right now a 1M ISK Griffin can jam out that ship and force them to go through the warmup cycle again; or a Maulus can damp down the Vagabond to lose its lock at that range, and force it to come in closer.

If ADM indexes are raised for the systems owned, it will take 40 minutes to reinforce a structure - giving lots of time to form up and chase off the invader. The increased ADM will also result in a lower vulnerability window, so there is less time the defense fleets will have to be vigilant. And that's the point of occupancy sov - if you are living in the space and raising the indexes, you'll be able to defend it before the structures go into reinforced.

As for roaming gangs, I'm finding Entosis a great way of encouraging fights. It is creating content and a more vibrant Nullsec. Rather than roaming through regions of empty space, where ratters and miners POS or dock up as you come through, we can provoke a reaction and get a good fight. If the residents would rather not form up, then they'll have a lot of timers to deal with in the next few days, and risk having someone come and 3rd party it. Some good examples of this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3ej5oy/therabois_demonstrate_the_proper_use_of_fozziesov/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3f8wta/voc_genocides_phoenix_company_sov_defense_fleet/



I agree with this issue - sov kiting shouldn't be a thing. Even if a structure is partially captured, at the end of the vulnerability window, it should go invulnerable and save any capture progress for the next day. Being able to partially capture a structure, and then come back out of timezone to complete it is not balanced or intended design, in my opinion. Especially where the amount captured is almost unnoticable - this seems more like a UI problem.

We could discuss a similar exception to the POS reinforcement - where when the remaining time on the structure capture is < 10-25% the structure does not go invulnerable, allowing the attacker to continue reinforcement. This would prevent race conditions like what we've seen in the past with with SBU destruction but still leave enough time for the sov owners to form up to defend the structure.

"It Is Not the Strongest of the Species that Survives But the Most Adaptable to change" - Charles Darwin.

Any change to any system within EVE will come with those who win from the changes and those who will lose from the changes. I would like to point out that all the signatories to this post are the powers of old, those who adapted to the dominion sov system and built their empires using the tactics and strategies that worked for that system and those times. They are obviously the ones losing out on the new system, but does that make fozziesov a bad system?

I would ike to offer a counter perspective as a new alliance taking sov in nullsec for the first time.

We (The CORVOS) were determined that we would not become a part of a coalition when we made the move to sov null. Many of our leadership had been involved in sov before but we wanted to own our space in our own right. Ours to hold or lose on our own merits. We made some allies, but no supercoalitions with blues for 30 jumps.
So far we have been able to hold off much larger groups with better ship comps and numerical advantage by adapting to fozziesov. Small teams (2-3 pilots) have been able to effectivley stop the enemy gaining any control whatsoever. sure we havent won every fight but we have been able to maintain our sov without simply being forced to face the enemy head on. We can fight hit and run gurella style, deny the enemy pilots their F1 pressing sessions while giving our own pilots invaluable small gang experince as we destory entosis ships and their escorts.
Fozziesov has allowed us, as well as many other smaller independant groups to compete in the sov game.

Of course it is no wonder the empires of olde are unhappy, they lose out on this. Their weaknesses of old are now gaping holes in their battle plans. Their pilots and FCs will need to change if their alliances are to be able to survive.

No longer are fights decided on one single massive engagement.
Individual pilot skill matters. A small team of commited and experienced pilots can hold off or at least delay a larger force.
Big F1 pressing fests are not what every player wants. I want to be able to, mid fight, take command of a small detachment of a larger fleet and hit enemy positions and eliminate enemy entosis ships and their escorts.

If you cannot adapt to the new system you will die. And those who can adapt and survive will take your place at the top of the food chain. You will not be able to have massive afk empires that noone can ever threaten.

Welcome to fozziesov boys.

This isnt to say its perfect. UAXDeath does make some good points, such as not having to clean up uncontested nodes. But with CCPs new release cycle they will be able to monitor and change the system as it needs. But the system as a whole is great, if the powers of old are complaining its an indication that fozziesov is working.

And to CCP: Keep up the good work.