EVE General Discussion

MoA has now successfully captured 3 systems from the imps. Last night we successfully defended one system from goon invaders.

The Mittiani's article : https://www.themittani.com/news/new-sov-collected-feedback states explicitly that pvp in the fozzie sov is limited mostly to interceptors. This is an outright lie.

We have had more kills in the last couple weeks than we've ever had. A few days ago our alliance reached #2 on zKillboard. Look at our killboard! It is a lot more than just interceptors both wins and losses.

The fact is with the new system the goon tactic of "blue balling" just doesn't work. For the first time in a long time they are being forced to undock and defend their systems and too much H1Z1 has made them rusty. This is why they are the loudest to cry about it.

For the goons this is a crisis.

Personally I think Fozzie Sov has been a huge success in generating content.

Yes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3guqam/csm10_people_of_reddit_you_are_being_lied_to_endie/

This ^^, particularly in this thread...hate to sound like a broken record, but the point is to think smaller...
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5963555#post5963555

I very much doubt it was a "fleet". Tell me this. do you honestly expect to hold that sov for a significant length of time? It's a simple question.

Lol, and what exactly is that "crap" we do? You mean playing a video game for entertainment? I know you have this idea that we're some evil dudes hell bent on wrecking eve, but that's just you sucking up propaganda. Most of the changes that have been damaging to us we have actively pushed for, including these sov changes. We're here to have fun in a game which some of you seem to take as seriously as a career. If you're plan is to make that "wither away", you might want to give that up before you waste your life like your boss does.

As for the monument, that was a couple of idiots, not the entire group. Are you saying if some douche you don't even know in MOA decides to go out mugging people then we should just label you all as muggers?

The problem is these sov changes don't actually make it harder to hold space for groups like ours and are dull to play with from all sides. You like it right now because you still believe gen eve and gevlon when they tell you that you're destroying the "ebil goons", but eventually you'll realise that you're making less of an impact now than you did before the changes.

What about groups like us, wealthy, large and vastly active?

The rest of your post is granted.

Yes, no coherent exstant force in the EVE universe can defend against a full "Imperium" retaliation.
Yes, the changes are merely an inconvenience, and dont threaten the "Imperium" at all.

Hence, lack of "gudfights", cos no one else can compare or compete.

But I think this segment above of your post hit upon the truth.

EVE development, as a sandbox, allowed for but never really considered the possibility of such a coherent, organised and structured force.. There was precedenct before in terms of BoB, but that was disassembled ultimately from within, not without.
EVE systems did not develop congruently fast enough to allow for competition.

Since then, this has immunized the community to any such revolutionary AWOX ever happening again, as well as forcing null mechanics into a stalemate between such a hegemony, its antagonists and CCPs direction for the game.

You've won the null sandbox.
You are its king, and responsible for the bread and circus of its populace.

Any and all good improvements will, de facto, hurt you more than anyone else
There is no way around that.

The key argument of "when will a coalition organise and rise up to us" is a misdirection and fallacy.
All change from CCP and all action from player base, happens now in respect of and relation to your hegemony.

CCP will not upset yout status quo.
Player potential is impaired by your successful programs to assimilate aggressor players as renters and F1 monkeys.
Well done. This deserves due credit.

But.

You are your own worst enemy.
Your success is your own defeat.
This is a fitting crown, and all the more bitter for it.

I think you, I, and everyone else, acknowledges the futility of aggressing the "Imperium".

Barring one caveat, which is revolutionary change by CCP.
But that wont happen, because you hold them firmly economically by the balls in terms of subs/PLEX, alongside enormous whining and threatening to leave the game.

Sov, and NS by extension, is a foregone situation.
No real competition will ever arise, nor will CCP be able to make significant changes when even the paltry extant model of a single trollceptor results in 20%+ aggregate whine in a feedback thread, even though they are not even realistically infringing or capturing your space. This is before considering the unthinkable and unparalleled force you COULD bring down on any aggressing entity.

Youd have done better remaining silent, and letting CCP and antagonists make their case without gishing it.
You did yourself a huge diservice, because you refuted so vociferously even such a pittance of a change, as to make the expected result from a more serious change unthinkable from a community reaction perspective, and a CCP popularity of change concern.

Its your sandbox now.
You did this.
You block even the most superficial changes.

Enjoy your null empire, for what its worth.
But do not fault CCP or the rest of us for lack of change.
That is entirely on your own recognisance, for having so aggressively, and with gravitas, argueing even against such a simple change, equal to basically a few annoying mosqiutos biting an elephants bum,(and as you aknoweldge) insignificant and inoffensive change.

You were so angry about this small, insignificant change.
How about then anticipation of reaction to far more revolutionary changes?
You overplayed your position, with too much anger, to your own detriment.
Youve shown yourself as an angry, incompatible and uncompromising entity.

CCP, imo, should leave you to your NS sandbox, and instead focus on WH/LS space or perhaps even new sectors.
Instead focusing on providing other alternative content to EVE and its (and your) players, whilst you in your sandbox, fall apart to your own hubris and self-entitlement.

PS: Also, your function amounts to that of a talking head and a spin doctor. Deliberate and persitant disruption of any and all concerns against your overlords is your job, while they themselves remain silent and distant from dispute here. Everyone knows this about you and a few other posters. The general moratorium on discussion here by un-delegated Imperium members is also readily apparent (as is your strategy and awareness along these sides, as demonstrated over undue concern of a "forum CTA" that never materialized and was in all perspectives less detrimental to discussion than your own involvement). Frankly, you are terrible at your job and have only made matters worse for yourself and the powers you represent. Id fire you immediately and place you under specific non-posting restrictions, though allowing you alongside to train and inform your successor on the forum environment.

First off: Ask CCP. We don't have stats like that.

Secondly, why do only PvP characters count? Using a system includes PVE.

Finally, it's irrelevant, since we're not losing systems so we obviously have enough people to defend the ones we have. You claim we can't defend them yet we obviously can otherwise we'd be hemorrhaging systems left and right.

It amuses me that you keep asking that as if you've somehow caught me out. Like the reason the mechanics are boring is because we may have pipe systems with few people in them and not because CCP made using mining lasers for structures the way to take sov.

For the TCU, just get rid of nodes. No one is gonna have a 4000 man dogpile over a TCU, get real. Probably for the ihub as well. Reduce nodes on station timer to like, 3-5.

So far we got a lot of good fights with the new mechanics and there are more to come. It's sad to see that some represantitves of the big coalitions are seeding so many lies. That is poor. The new mechanics are great. CCPs move towards this gameplay is visionary.

Either way, someone has to make time to chase nullified, evasion fit, disposable ships out of the system every time they pop up. It's not "too much hard work", I've not once stated that it is, it's actually EASIER to defend than dominion sov, it's just insanely boring.

Nullsec has an approximate 11% decrease in kills between this month and last month, and a 16% decrease on June. Compared to last year this August is 11% down there too. Consider that there will also be no more big capital fights that end up in international non-gaming news sites, and it's hard to see how this is a good thing. I'm Imperium though so obviously I'm lying just to keep on making all that isk that I make trading in highsec.