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I think the Stiletto is one of the better looking ships since day one, it looked good on old graphics engine and it looks even better now. It's the shape really that mimics a hornet diving in to sting somebody. (edit: I think my first ship loss was to a Stiletto the first time I ventured out in to null sec)

Leave the Stiletto as is, use it on burst? I mean that thing looks like a pancake accident gone wild.

hi,
the trasher redisgns - absolute no go!
versions e, f, g, h above all. please no.
looks like some grazy anime robot thingis.

but next on your list should be bantam

Having slept on it,

Thrasher Variation B for the Thrasher
Thrasher Variation F for the Sabre

Redesign exploration similar to I or K for the a Cyclone update

Thrasher redesign WIP would better fit the talwar?

the look these ships is great but I agree with the comment about the conical engines needing to be higher tech in some way?

Nice sleeker Dominix hull! Takes me from I-am-never-flying-that-potato to I-wanna-see-how-that-looks-when-I-fly-it!

Stiletto Redesign WIP: Cool-looking ship, would love to see it in-game, but it does not look like an interceptor. Most of the mass of this ship appears to be in the wings, which make the ship look heavy and slow. (My first impression was that this was a stealth bomber. The nose pylons echo the Breacher.) The wings look like unraked glider wings. Maybe cut the wing mass to one-half or one-third, rake them back, swap the material to the solar-panel-style Minmatar wings, and then double them to be Slasher-style dragonfly wings? Are there thrusters on this model at all? Hard to tell, but if there are, they may need to be more impressive to give a better impression of this-thing-is-fast.


Probe Redesign WIP: Overall, the ship looks flattened, shortened, and widened. The combination of "flat" and "wide" implies tanky and slow, which what the other races' ships are compared with Minmatar ships. Minmatar ships are generally less tanky and faster/more agile, which befits a sleeker profile. The existing Probe's asymmetrical depths and heights (which are absolutely fascinating to me - I am forever spinning that ship around to look at different parts to imagine what is in each section of the ship) are mostly lost. The redesigned engine nacelles resemble short, fat legs when seen from above/below (granted, the existing Probe's engine nacelles look like square, blocky legs from above/below, but I think they look better when they are more tall than wide). The pyramid on top of the ship looks like it was borrowed from the Caldari and installed backwards. The "neck" is reminiscent of a Tempest, which is nice, but the cockpit with its buglike antennae don't look like a cockpit - they look like the end of the neck which was abruptly terminated. I do like the lances, but not the wings.
Summary: please don't replace the Probe with this.


Thrasher Redesign WIP: This is an amazing piece of work and should totally get into the game! But maybe not as a Thrasher. The Thrasher's existence has been exquisitely linked with another ship, as shown in its description: "Engineered as a supplement to its big brother the Cyclone, the Thrasher's tremendous turret capabilities and advanced tracking computers allow it to protect its larger counterpart from smaller, faster menaces." That description gives meaning to the Thrasher's existence and purpose. The Thrasher's design should therefore be visibly similar to the Cyclone's design. (One of the most compelling aspects about the existing Thrasher/Cyclone designs is that they somewhat resemble a freight train coming at you! Nobody wants to stand in the way of a train!)
Additionally, this design seems like more of it could be appreciated if it were larger, say as a cruiser or battlecruiser. (If it's going to be a Minmatar ship, it needs more thrusters!) I also recommend flipping it upside-down and experimenting with that.

Thank you for all your hard work!

-Dornhelm Askulf

Want to add to my previous comment, that I really love new Thrasher design but not as a replacement of existing model, but as a separate one.
Think of it like a cross-faction pirate ship that utilizes Caldari/Minmatar features.
For example, missile boat (from Caldari) and armour tank (Minmatar).
Also, new thrasher reminded me WW2 armoured vehicle Sd Kfz 250 (series).

I agree with much that has been posted here. The new Dominix design is EXCELLENT, a classic updated. I love the little touch of the drone hangar :)

The Stiletto and Probe are really good, although I would thin down the Probe central tower a bit.


The Thrasher . . . urrrrrrr? To me it's too Caldari in appearance and too busy in design. Of the 'Thrasher Concepts' I dislike A & D the least, while the 'Thrasher Redesign' could be improved by removing the top structure. I like B the best in the 'Thrasher Variants'.

Overall I like the new direction Eve art is taking and look forward to more new designs. Thank you for sharing some of the design process with us; it can't be easy having your hard work subjected to criticism, sometimes harsh. Congratulations on your promotion.

Please do not change my ChooChoo Fish (thrasher) I love the design of it, its wingy bits and all.

it would be nice if you could put things on the eve forums rather than reddit.
and that thrasher is disgusting. fresh? more like terrible. do redesigns of bad ships rather than good ships, and make them better rather than worse.

Nah.... Design by committee is never a good thing. And the general public has terrible taste. The artists know what they are doing, it's their profession. They don't need the "help" of non-artists.

The ship design contest on Deviantart was (eventually) a success though, I think. There was a ton of trash for CCP to sort through, but the top tier of artists came up with a few interesting designs. Then CCP artists took those shapes and worked with them a bit, to produce some pretty cool looking ships. But that is allowing one outside artist to suggest shapes and form, and then filtering it through the usual CCP artists. That is quite a bit different than letting any random Joe Blow from the forums have input.

I like seeing all of this preliminary concept art, and I hope CCP continues to let us see it. But the artists should probably ignore the threads, or take it all with a grain of salt.

Just look at this thread, the Thrasher is going from this to this, and people are crying about it.

The new Dominix is very good. I really like the new Probe, and totally in love with the inty model. It looks like sort of a... killer mosquito. Great.

The new Thrasher, however, is not.