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Is that code for do nothing and hope this all blows over?

I say it is time for a poll.

I really want to give constructive feedback, and not just be one of the 'waah I'm leaving' brigade.

With that in mind, can we get a couple of answers from CCP as to the nature of this change, namely:

1) What do you see as the purpose of the icon's?
2) What was the intended objective of this change?

Give us the answers to those, and we can give you genuine, constructive feedback.

Thanks

Now i understand, thxxx

Constructive?

Give me the option to chose wether i want to use the old icons, or the new icons.

PS. I dont expect a knee jerk reaction, but I wouldnt leave it to long if i were you because the damage is already been done. Ive been here 6 years but will willingly delete Eve from my PC if this isnt rectified soon.

I don't like the new icons. Not in that I hate the design, I just think they look bad, almost childish. When the old gate, moon, tower, station etc. icons on the overview were crisp and clear, the new ones with a filling just look like a bad attempt to copy them.

Maybe reduce the size of them by 15% or so, and make them transparent, that might look better.

Or just use the ones from your dev blog on the subject, they actually looked pretty cool.

What about T3 gallente destroyer Hecate ship ? We know release date for this ship (or closed time to be) ?

Sadly i have to follow most of my predecessors in this threadnought with my opinion.

The previous icons used to be clear and distinctive.
That's what their purpose was for years: a quick and reliable way of telling what ship classes are on the field.
All other information is in the "type" field of your overview.
Putting that much extra information into the icon field as you did does NOT help the way you think it does.
You still need to know the exact hull type and for many ships you even need to zoom in on the ship itself to know what you are up against and if it's worth or even possible to take on that in your ship(s).

The issue some previous talkers mentioned: "but you couldn't see the difference between frigs and dessies on the overview".
I agree, that was one of the flaws of the previous icons.
Even though size distinction was not always truly possible with the old icons accompanied by some other flaws, they provided a quick and reliable way of telling item classes apart.
This is totally missing in the new system.

Right now i have deactivated the icons column.
Why? They are irritating and useless because not quickly enough identified, thus just distracting from important information like in the types column.
And on top of that - as if that wasn't enough yet - they ain't even stylistically fitting into the futuristic style of the eve overview, they look like something escaped from a 1980s arcade style console game.
So now i'm missing a way of quickly identifying a certain object class on my overview - very bad and an extreme hinderance for especially pvp.

As a developer myself i'm shocked how you guys ignore that much negative user feedback.
Clearly there's like at least 90% negative responses from what i see by skimming over in this threadnought, yet you refuse to acknowledge that you made a mistake and roll back.
If i did my work like that, my customers simply would get another guy to do what i do for them.
On the long term that does not pay out very well ....


Finally to be a little constructive in this post as well:

I'm asking you as a passionate EVE player that does not want to stop playing this game over bad design decisions by a few of your devs:
Make such a critical change optional. You received a lot of negative feedback. Act on it.

You did with the beta map and with the notifications. Please do it again.

This way you can keep your newly achieved icon stuff without angering a big part of your customer base.
Those that like it can use it.
Those that dislike it, use the old icons.

I know that means some additional work now. I hate it everytime a customer comes back at me and says "uh no that needs to be undone/done differently".
BUT i can assure you that it will be worth the extra hours. It will please a lot of your paying customers.

Probably you read only this post of my others. Yes it's true that ppl don't want it or to be more accurate 75% of the ppl in this game don't want it.

If you read my other post you can see that I wrote that we must have both option

New icons - for you
Old icons - for me and ppl who like it

Don't mean to be rude, but you obviously have no experience with such aspects of EVE as fast-paced or fleet PvP in hostile environments. These require the interface to be more than 'having a facelift' or 'looking fine'. These require the interface to be military-grade precise and functional above all else. Old in-space and overview icons did provide that to a degree. The new ones ruined that, because they are not nearly as distinguishable from each other as they need to be.