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Any skin on any ship - bug on SiSi - yes we could have skins on ships

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#321 - 2015-05-05 02:08:17 UTC
I say make all the existing quafe skins into some cool two tone stuff like the special edition iterons and let everyone else get the Quafe skins that we know and love

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#322 - 2015-05-05 02:12:27 UTC
Hicksimus wrote:
Good thing they fix stuff like this.

EvE is real! Real boring.

If you are no longer in need of your stuff, I'll have fun with it.

You can send it to me and I'll ensure the right amount also reaches UAE.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#323 - 2015-05-05 04:29:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
Memphis, I actually agree with you. I also know how players feel even though SKINs are not my thing.

I would like this clothing item very much, and for the lack of availability and answers I have only been able to put it out of my mind to save myself from stress. As far as desire goes for something in this game, this is it for me:

Sterling Dress Blouse Matte Black.

If that item is locked away as a one-time prize for cosplaying at fanfest or something else completely out of whack, I will consider it unforgivable. It's more than something I want. It's a fundamental problem with the player and game culture, and the lack of attention given by CCP to visual content that -I- enjoy.

It's the last straw and I totally see it going bad. For now, like I have for years, I can only wait and see whether this is a game for me, or just a source of frustration. There's a difference between a game that is slow to be what I want, and a game that will never be what I want.

I'm commenting on this subject because I see the same thing happening to SKINs. In my opinion, the rate of turnaround for art assets in EVE is horrendously slow. Low resources is one thing, but this situation is a case of mismanagement.

This is an issue that is elevated above org affiliations and politics. As a fellow player of EVE I want you to get what makes you happy and what you enjoy.

I know how it can potentially feel for all the players who like SKINs, years down the road. Trust me.

The only thing that will keep me from withdrawing from EVE is the fact that I won't need to pay irl money for subs anymore. Soon. I'll just keep playing EVE as a way to keep myself occupied in my downtime. But there will be a lot of love lost. And that's pretty bad. If EVE misses the mark for me that hard as a player and the only reason I keep playing is because it's free.

Just release the content.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#324 - 2015-05-05 04:57:09 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
...Just release the content.

I often wonder what reason there could be for holding back on clothing assets and the like, especially when it exists in the game but isn't obtainable. In the case of sellable items as it is here it's like not wanting money in a way.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#325 - 2015-05-05 05:03:36 UTC
Dude, that is exactly what I decided to leave out of my post. word for word.

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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#326 - 2015-05-05 05:09:51 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
I've already posted on reddit, but obviously I'll share here too.

To follow up on this thread, we've had a sit down today to talk shop over SKINs and everything surrounding them.

This meeting included Team Size Matters, as well as a few of the art guys, myself, CCP Seagull and our CCP Thomas, our Monetization Director.

We should have a dev blog for you guys early next week that's going to have a decent amount of content in it for you to take a look at.

All I can say right now is that your questions and concerns have been taken on board, and we had a super healthy discussion about all this today, where everyone involved within CCP is very much on the same page Smile



Thank You!

We want the universal skins, you saw it we had tons of fun over the weekend with the bug. You guys saw how a bug became something fun.

As for the future skin packs will have to be optimized for the ship size. As I noticed frig ones didnt work too well on battleships :P but.. I would be willing to pay for a police persuit skin if i can put it on all my ships.

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#327 - 2015-05-05 05:10:49 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
...Just release the content.

I often wonder what reason there could be for holding back on clothing assets and the like, especially when it exists in the game but isn't obtainable. In the case of sellable items as it is here it's like not wanting money in a way.

Agreed.. I mean short term I get.. but there's clothing that has been on TQ but never seeded since day ONE.
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#328 - 2015-05-05 05:13:57 UTC
Chyeah, it's the best looking stuff too. It's not just some of the good stuff, it's all of the good stuff that is unavailable.

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Memphis Baas
#329 - 2015-05-05 07:45:59 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Sterling Dress Blouse Matte Black.
Those pants are gorgeous too; lighting / shadows on grey coloring accentuate 3D curves much better than the same on black.

The issue with outfits may be the "physically simulated clothing and hair" requiring too much effort; other games texture the clothes with the darker/lighter areas so they appear 3D with minimal processing power, in EVE I'd bet it's a flat grey texture with actually emulated stretching of fabric and shadow effects based on where the light source is. Lots of effort to code the system, and then they keep the NES store almost empty and keep us locked up in solitary the captains' quarters.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#330 - 2015-05-05 15:24:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Memphis Baas wrote:

The issue with outfits may be the "physically simulated clothing and hair" requiring too much effort; other games texture the clothes with the darker/lighter areas so they appear 3D with minimal processing power, in EVE I'd bet it's a flat grey texture with actually emulated stretching of fabric and shadow effects based on where the light source is. Lots of effort to code the system, and then they keep the NES store almost empty and keep us locked up in solitary the captains' quarters.

Yes, CCP devs have talked about that, hairs and amarr robes are painfull to make.

There is not such issue with SKINs I think, because look how easy it was to make all those combinations looking good and without performance hit with those bug induced SKINS on ships (I did not noticed any, even in Jita, fireworks are more puzzling P), just with few skins, also, no one here was really angry about performance, all i was able to spot is that some skins were looking "inverted", more whites than greens in Wiyrkomi Orca for example and the logos adding to themselves.

CCP Graphic Team Devs should be proud, this "bug" showed us it is really stable and steady piece of code, all this glory is somewhat obstructed by pricing and the way the SKINs are obtainable by players (lack of player generated content).

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Juvenius Drakonius
#331 - 2015-05-05 16:11:43 UTC
TLTR...but

Oh sweet baby lord JEzus....... did you see the Golden NIX, Dominix, Vexor?

Just make GOLD Skins for EVERY SHIP....PLEASE NAAAAUUUUU TAKE MY MONEYYYY and make a MULTIPLE SHIP SKIN LICENCE ...more expensive...but just once you buy IT!





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Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#332 - 2015-05-05 16:22:47 UTC
Most my ships look crap now :(

It wasn't so easy to see without contrast, but damn some of the standard textures look rusty and dusty and lacking in colour.

Hard not to notice after the much better quality of the skins we have seen.
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#333 - 2015-05-05 16:33:59 UTC
Mehashi 'Kho wrote:
Most my ships look crap now :(

It wasn't so easy to see without contrast, but damn some of the standard textures look rusty and dusty and lacking in colour.

Hard not to notice after the much better quality of the skins we have seen.


They're working on it https://youtu.be/iJGFnXkRGlc?&t=663

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CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#334 - 2015-05-05 17:53:16 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
They're working on it https://youtu.be/iJGFnXkRGlc?&t=663


V5++ is coming! Keep your eyes open for more news soon.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#335 - 2015-05-05 20:37:05 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
They're working on it https://youtu.be/iJGFnXkRGlc?&t=663


V5++ is coming! Keep your eyes open for more news soon.

Eagerly awaiting it. Was there any further consideration towards having the age of a ship show more with weathering/dirt etc?
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#336 - 2015-05-09 06:13:22 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
CCP Darwin wrote:
Xercodo wrote:
They're working on it https://youtu.be/iJGFnXkRGlc?&t=663


V5++ is coming! Keep your eyes open for more news soon.

Eagerly awaiting it. Was there any further consideration towards having the age of a ship show more with weathering/dirt etc?

Considering all of the complaints about dirty looking skins, I think they'd better consider making the "worn and weathered" look optional.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#337 - 2015-05-09 06:43:34 UTC
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#338 - 2015-05-09 07:51:32 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Or make a new Wash Me station service.

Personal service for characters included? ;)
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#339 - 2015-05-09 13:33:05 UTC
Yeah, like a shower with a couple sensor bars or blurs.

Sadly, that doesn't agree with the version of EVE that exists in devs' minds.

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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
#340 - 2015-05-09 13:54:00 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Yeah, like a shower with a couple sensor bars or blurs.

Sadly, that doesn't agree with the version of EVE that exists in devs' minds.


Looks like shiny ships will show too much dirt if they're not exploded quickly enough... Roll
Good thing I trust the rust.