EVE General Discussion

I simply have no idea why (after 12 years of new sci-fi games coming out , people claiming they were going to affect EVE Online, and SEEING those games not affect EVE Online) people still think this way lol.

Star Trek Online
Black Prophecy
Jump Gate: Evolution (which never even launched despite the hype)
Star Wars Galaxies
Star Wars: The Old Republic
Elite: Dangerous

Hell, you could even find people who considered X-Rebirth a threat.

End result of all these "threats"? Zero impact. People think 'the next big thing' is going to have an effect on EVE, mainly because some of the people who play EVE don't really understand themselves or know what they want. This is why people talk loudly about how much EVE sucks when they leave...only to come back (quietly) because no game can offer what EVE does.

What it offers is way more than spaceships, hell, the spaceships might be totally secondary in all of this.

I'm no poet but thanks anyway.,.

The "Eve by numbers", you yourself mention in part - The exploration mini game.
Another example is, Faction Warfare buttons (complexes), where you warp in and orbit a small structure while a timer counts down to increase your companies control of the system.

More to come? Sovereignty to be controlled (won and lost) with the use of a thing called an "Entosis Link". Basically the same as in FW except the entosis needs to have a lock on the structure you are orbiting as it is capturing.

Plus, an all new dimension coming to sov, "capture the node", again using the new entosis link but this time you need to capture multiple "nodes" (small structures) spread around an area of space your alliance may not even hold sov in. Losing or winning the capture the node game will determine who wins the battle for controlling an area of sov.
All of this carried out in a set four hour period on a daily basis.
It also becomes, who gets to screw with another's sov without really wanting it for them selves.
Who can go reinforce someone else's sov on behalf of a third party.
Basically the new sov system favors large well organized groups. If you are in a small alliance, having enemies (or simply not enough friends) will mean you soon lose your "home".

So Eve by numbers, does not so much mean numbers as in 1 to 10. It was a reference to the changing face of Eve as a whole and how the sandbox element (play the game how you choose) of the game is slowly being eroded away and replaced with, mini games which will in turn, become a numbers game.
The bigger the group, the more numbers, to send out with entosis links.

Sounds like Star Citizen might become the Sci-Fi, Waste of Web.

As far as I am concerned:
"Waste of Web was so successful as it was the first MMO that ran on almost any machine and could be played by any idiot." Suddenly there was a game for the average and below to play and the social black hole was created.

Saying I might play a different computer game is a "threat"? I don't take games that seriously, perhaps you do.

What others have said in the past is irrelevant. I'm simply saying that for me EVE isn't my ideal internet spaceships game but I play it anyway because it's the best of the current bunch. I know others play it for the same reasons. Trying to force me into game of sovs or PvP roams with player corps isn't going to help retain me as a customer because that's not why I play EVE. If another multiplayer spaceships game comes along with a more authentic combat system and better PvE etc then I'll play that instead.

I play EVE despite the people.

When I see one of your posts, I try ignore that thought and just scroll past.

Games are not a zero sum thing. I have a Star Trek Online account. Somehow, despite that, I have neither left EVE nor imploded from the impossibility of playing two spaceship games. The neat thing about the two games is that they are good at completely different things. There's almost no overlap, except for ~sci fi~, which at this point is too big of a genre to be much of an identifier. I would say that, overall, EVE is the deeper and more perdurable game, but sometimes I want to log my Gorn in and have lots of stuff served up to me to blow up; or maybe I want some of the wry wit and deep lore of Star Trek. It's all good. Elite isn't a threat to EVE not because it's terrible, but because nobody logs into EVE for twitchy dog-fighting gameplay anyway.

To understand EVE's shrinking numbers (and yes, 30k is shrinking even from what I remember: Crucible would see US prime time numbers in the mid 40s), you have to take into account the fact that CCP is repositioning the game. The change to programmatic multiboxing probably cost them a lot of accounts, and also the PCU, but it also cost them relatively few actual players. The addition of multiple character training also shrunk the total number of accounts, but not any significant number of players. The new, more aggressive anti-botting policy probably also shrunk the PCU and reduced the number of players. On the other side of the coin, some part of the registered-account spike triggered by the nullsec wars is accounted for by people re-upping their latent supercapital pilots. The subsequent cooldown is doubtless the same accounts going back into suspension after they're no longer needed.

None of these are bad. None of them are a sign that the game is dying. They are, however, a sign that CCP is shifting from being reliant on more accounts to being reliant on more players. It's no accident that their interest in the new player experience was rekindled at almost exactly the same time that they started the various initiatives to get people to consolidate their multiple accounts down. The transition will be rocky, as they tend to be. Induction on any current trends is highly liable to be misleading. Sure, CCP is taking risks, but risks can pay off.

90% of her posts only spread negativity,
while at the same time she defends exactly those assholes
who constantly whine, rage and insult people who shoot others.

There is also no other game like it, i mean, where else can you log into a single server, run into am american, russian, german, etc. or have huge battles. no place.

And she even deliberately tries to help proving my point.

Fascinating!