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As a US player in a alliance slanted towards EU for active players, I would just like to say:

"Thanks CCP for stripping me of opportunity to participate in defensive timers for my alliance, now I can instead just sit around and leech off my alliance without having any chance or obligation in participating in defense OTHER THAN RATTING IN DEFENSIVE SYSTEMS"

It's so refreshing to know that not only will I never be around to stop an enemy from fighting for the initial timer, but that 100% of the time, it will always come out in a period of time I won't be there for.

Thanks CCP!

You're not allowed to say these things unless you've actually taken sov on your own, or been able to defend sov from someone else.

buff sov benefits to compensate

+20% mining yield per industry index
+20% anomaly cash yield per military index

or some ****

i say this as someone who has never lived in sov and has harassed lots and lots, there needs to be a buff to people living there if there's gonna be such a huge buff to me and mine


i mean why wouldnt you just do lvl 4s and mine in highsec even more than people do already if sov is getting harder to hold

EUTZ can play laser tag, USTZ and AUTZ will play hide-and-seek

I understand your feeling on this topic, and point is their no risk for cloaking any were! and no reward here and needs to be address. I'm sure ccp will find away to address this like everything else in the game. Person will have to keep warping every 5 minutes or face to be found type thing. No idea but in do time.

Theyre all Test Alts

I have one major concern about this: I love how it forces the fight to be spread out to multiple systems, multiple-grid battles are something that should exist more in the game. However, unless I misunderstood something wouldn't this make it harder for a smaller alliance to hold sov if they want to own only a single system?


It's not 100% clear in the dev blog, but the section about the command nodes doesn't mention prime time whatsoever. Probably just need prime time to get to the command node part, then the other time zones can contribute to the struggle over the nodes.

Prime time. If your structures are only vulnerable during that block of time, you can make sure you have people to defend it during that block of time. Also, the fitting on the entosis link might be more than an interceptor can take. They also can't warp while the link is active, so you could burn after them with other interceptors.

That said, I think 2 minutes and 250km is a too strong for the T2 link.

It seems like this approach is reasonable, though the proposed timers seem really short to me.

I do wonder about doing things like this without also proving some incentive to actually hold sov at the same time (or before the sov mechanics changes). At the very least, CCP should be publishing a little more future roadmap details, like for example is a reward rebalance even planned?

Not sure what to think about this yet, I like the complete overhaul, but I do see a few huge question marks above my head.

1. different TZ alliances - I don't see any chance to win meaningful sov space of another alliance that lives mostly in another TZ
2. supers - don't get me wrong, not a fan of those - but why should people use them at all, unless as entosis link tank
3. station games in freeport mode
4. 250km range on the t2 mod, seriously!?! you gotta be kidding
5. not sure this system is much easier to grasp than the old one :P
6. Still need more NPC space between certain regions to create easier jump-offs and staging zones

I'll need to read this a few more times and think about possible scenarios.

oh you sweet summer child