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Polarized weaponry (affectionately known as glass cannons)

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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#321 - 2014-10-27 17:01:48 UTC
ICELANDIC MEGA PULSE LASER
Ravcharas
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#322 - 2014-10-27 17:05:34 UTC
Third time's the charm?
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#323 - 2014-10-27 17:08:04 UTC
No but seriously call it "Overcharged"

It obviously implies that the damage output is increased, but to "overcharge" something implies an element of risk or danger, since, well, it means to "charge something too much" essentially. In this case the increased damage comes from drawing excessive power from ship systems which leads to the detrimental effect on defensive capabilities.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#324 - 2014-10-27 17:29:49 UTC
So, you went from a name that people complained had serious WoW/fantasy overtones to a name that has serious religious/martyrdom overtones?

Okay. Why not name them after something that has to do with, you know, weapons?

Were you going for "astigmatism", as in poor eyesight, instead of "stigmata"? That kind of makes sense given the ranges involved with these weapons, but there is pretty much zero imagery with enhanced combat ability inherent with poor eyesight.

Unless there is a deep, underlying connecting to some upcoming piece of lore, I am seriously losing faith in CCP's basic creative processes. Given the lack of an obvious connection between the terms "blighted" and "stigmatic", I can't see this being the case.

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SC0T1SH WARRIOR
Zero For 0wned
#325 - 2014-10-27 17:34:40 UTC
Bastard Guns.

No one wanted them in the first place.

Dont mind me,  just touching your stuff.

Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#326 - 2014-10-27 17:37:41 UTC
Does CCP have anyone who actually speaks English who can come up with a remotely decent name, rather than just jamming random words into Google Translate? This is worse than the first suggestion, get your **** together.
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#327 - 2014-10-27 17:39:44 UTC


I figure CCP is looking for a replacement for attacking Sov structures. Caps aren't the answer for a lot of people (particularly small gangs) come phoebe. Subcaps need a weapon system to chew through sov structures.

I don't see this being it. There is too many weaknesses, for not enough damage. People are advocating that they may have a use on t1 ships, but bumping up the equip price of a t1 ship with these new weapons could probably pass 50 million for a t1 frigate, 100 million for a t1 cruiser, to maybe a billion for a t1 battleship. This is assuming each of these new guns is 20 million a piece.

I would look more towards retrofitting a specific subcap and making it a quazi artillery platform (create a new battlecruisers capable of doing about 1/5th the damage of a sieged dread, but incapable of targeting subcap).. I would take the weapons presented back to the drawing board and redo its mechanic. Maybe make the heat damage it takes or received affect its tank. You heat it, tank resistance goes up or down. Just something to provide it some depth, and not just a new deadspace toy that is inaccessible to the majority of eve players because it goes for hundreds of millions of Isk a piece.

All new equipment should have a focus on the newer younger pilots , and affordability for them. We need stuff to grab new players and keep them playing. You create a set of stuff most won't ever see or consider, your just removing them completely from the equation. Now does this mean that new stuff should ignore the older player? No, but this virtually excludes the entire new player base, for weeks or months or even years, from even conceivably considering to being used.

There are better options even in this thread.

Yaay!!!!

BadAssMcKill
Aliastra
#328 - 2014-10-27 17:45:25 UTC
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Seriously just rename the neuts and call these unstable
Rena Senn
Halal Gunnery
#329 - 2014-10-27 17:50:34 UTC
Stigmatic:

A stigmatic weapon draws upon the life force of the wielder to empower its blows. This profane energy deals an extra 1d6 points of necrotic damage to the opponent, but reduces the wielder's elemental resistances to 0 while the weapon is drawn. Only short ranged weapons can be enchanted with this ability.

Aura: Moderate necromancy. Creation: Caster Level 9th, Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Lesser Jovian Gravebind. Price: +2 bonus.
BobFromMarketing
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#330 - 2014-10-27 17:53:11 UTC
Not that anyone is going to use these because lol@ a sub 20% damage increase for a 100% damage taken boost but yall really need to look at the names you're picking. Stigmatic is actually worse than blighted.
Eustise
Perkone
Caldari State
#331 - 2014-10-27 17:54:50 UTC
They still need more damage. 35-40%. As for the name. Is CCP getting shaggy with us? MetaCCP? Stigmatic, really?

The issue is that a lot of Eve equipment is strongly tech-based. It would be as bad as getting an item in WoW called a "Dual-layered interlocking segmented chainmail".
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#332 - 2014-10-27 17:55:23 UTC
Stigmata was a movie right?

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#333 - 2014-10-27 18:00:51 UTC
I do not like to be offensive.. but ccp seriously... each CENT you spend on this feature is a wasted cent.

Just give us free subscription if you like to waste money.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Ama Scelesta
#334 - 2014-10-27 18:02:03 UTC
Is there a specific lore reason you're dead set on this particular naming scheme? Letting us know the lore thinking behind the weapon naming, might make it easier for us to swallow the name. Since we currently have no idea, to us it seems you're trying to add a very odd negative connotations to the use of the new guns for no obvious reason. Do they run on aborted baby juices or something?
Soden Rah
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#335 - 2014-10-27 18:06:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Soden Rah
I still think 'Berserker' weapons is the best suggestion.

It's a name people wont be embarrassed to use, fits in with the way the weapons work, and is acceptable in a sci-fi setting.

They are [supposed to be] high offence, low defence, burst weapons; as you smash your enemy or die in a blaze of glory.

Berserker fits that perfectly.

Stigmatic... well that's telling me that these weapons are shaming and embarrassing, That your referencing a religion
nobody [in game] has even heard of, or that these guns should have gone to specsavers...


EDIT: As has been said, some hint of the lore behind them or what kind of names you are kicking around and why
might help us understand/provide better suggestions if you don't like the ones proposed so far.
Unless and until we can work out what these guns are [supposed to be] good for it's hard to get the context.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#336 - 2014-10-27 18:30:53 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
No but seriously call it "Overcharged"

It obviously implies that the damage output is increased, but to "overcharge" something implies an element of risk or danger, since, well, it means to "charge something too much" essentially. In this case the increased damage comes from drawing excessive power from ship systems which leads to the detrimental effect on defensive capabilities.

Well I hate to be tooting my own horn here, but my suggestion is actually good.
You should use it, because it's good and it doesn't sound stupid.
muhadin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#337 - 2014-10-27 18:40:05 UTC  |  Edited by: muhadin
Go home ccp your drunk.

Bad names are bad names.



Zero Heavy Pulse Laser


"Zero" Is your resists
"Zero" Is the number of people that want these weapons.
"Zero" Is the number of people that like the names.
"Zero" Is the grade ccp get for this.

"Love the Life you Live, Live the Life you Love"

muhadin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#338 - 2014-10-27 18:44:20 UTC
Oops doublepost.

"Love the Life you Live, Live the Life you Love"

Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#339 - 2014-10-27 19:03:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Krell Kroenen
At first I wasn't sure if the new name was worse or better than the old one. But I have now decided that they are both equally poor choices. I guess CCP is just trying to find words that have the same meaning across as many of their supported languages as they can, flavor and logic be damned. And its just not the name of these modules that is lack luster, the weapon itself is so niche as to be nearly pointless and not worth the coding time/art resources to even put them in.

Maybe CCP should push this project back until they can do it right. Because as of right now this feels like a hack job so they can claim that they put something new in to the game.
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Alundil
Rolled Out
#340 - 2014-10-27 19:11:00 UTC
Capqu wrote:
LMAO THAT NEW NAME JEEEEEEEEEEEESUS CHRIST

This new name just gave Jesus another set of stigmata

Ugh

I'm right behind you