Wormholes

Well Sir you definitely haven't , done anything with a small group of guys in a wormhole
or you must be used to flying in a large blob. Must be nice. With 5 or 6 guys online at a time
It really makes it hard to do anything. if you cant "secure' your static. Its extremely risky to do
when you have to do it under duress, racing, no holes, Hard knocks or any other **** fleet
to you Static or connector to close it before they get enough people to burn down your cap and battleship your
attempting to roll the hole, so you don't have to spin in your POS for the day. Even with locking people out
anytime of a Day there could be a **** fleet **** rolling waiting to jump in on you.
FYI when this happens we don't have a cyno to call in supers and welp an attacker, we also
don't have a week of TIMERS to Amass Titains Suppers and 900 people. we have 1 timer and
that is a POS timer. Challenges? seriously? Try adding content not retardation, how bout fixing up
more POS management, or maybe the bookmarks

Note: Mind Craft and Dayz server will be open to WH people when this change comes

Wh space is the last place for a hand full of people to call "home" were they can defend it.
Its ********, if you want more "PVP" in wormhole Add some Tech moons in black holes or something
Give people a bigger reason to come in. The Fights are Great Win loose or draw,
Tell me were else in eve you can use bhaalgorns, Triage carriers, and dreadnoughts on a daily basis
with less then 20 people in a fight. Win loose or draw, those are Awesome fights.
Even getting murdered by these large alliances, when running sites we still have a fight
and go down biting clawing and scratching. Sir if you never knew this, you get to do a lot in a WH
fight, Refitting, bumping, changing ships etc. It maybe a lot for you to understand but PVP can
consist of more then F1 and ctrl Space.

I agree that these changes should be applied to all stargates and jumpbridges.

Though I believe the function should be inverted so that smaller ships / faster ships, are thrown futher from the exit when they emerge(mass, astrometricsSkills, shipRole).


Yes, Wolf Rayet we have been very successful with frigates and new players ... especially with faction warfare players ... Not really certain why I seem to be the only one aware of this ???

It is a great way for new pilots to get involved in wormholes.

You know that CCP is proposing a perma 16 hour RANDOM wormhole connection -- don't you? I have NO idea what the mechanic will be IF CCP allows connections like this.

EDIT:
I MISREAD CCP's Statement... the RANDOM wormholes are only large enough for frigates -- so that issue is moot! I misunderstood and I stand corrected!

I was mistaken that the randoms would allow larger ships ...

Which is why I was panicking. ... Has nothing to do with trolling.

The point still stands though ...

The function to determine distance from emerging from a wormhole should be something like:

emergeDistance(shipMass, shipRole, astrometricsSkills) ...


Landing further away gives advantages to avoid blobs. EDIT * For Frigate and Cruiser Pilots ... (Couldn't care less about battleships and capitals, they should have support anyway).

The inability to secure a whole lends to instability -- which should be a factor in more hostile and more profitable space.

Fozzie, Kidding aside. I'd like to hear your reasoning for only doing this to the wh mechanice or that you are going to RISK UP the others (cyno, bridges).

Please don't consider multiple options for adjustments. You either come out in jump range and can control the wh or not. This isn't horseshoes, this is moving a slow turning lumbering BUMPABLE capital ship. If it's not in jump range and I see it coming odds are pretty high that i can bump it further without any trouble. WH folks are good at bumping T3 cruisers off of wh, so bumping a moros is a no brainer. 6km off the wh is equivalent to 40km off the wh.

Really, it's a great mechanic that has provided several years of wh pvp epicness. Not broke..... don't fix. Not broke.... don't adjust.

I wrote a very nonconstructive post earlier explaining how constructive criticism is useless when giving feedback to you guys. Your post here proves exactly that. So thank you for showing that while you say you listen, you actually don't.. All you do is try to salvage what was a awful game design idea so you, by the end of the day, still have something to show for all the hours you have wasted..

Ever heard of the phrases:

"If it ain't broken, don't fix it."
and
"Mistakes are always forgivable, if one has the courage to admit them." (think this one is Bruce Lee btw.)

Here is my constructive criticism:
I don't want your change, cause it doesn't add anything of value to the game. It only adds grief, frustration and it limits our amount of content .

Here is my idea to a solution:
Be a man, admit your mistake, stop trying to fix what isn't broken..


oh, and if you actual care about player engagements in w-space as you claim.. You should maybe try changes that enables real combat instead? Maybe do some research on your game and see what people do when they are afraid of rolling their connection. (Hint.. They log off).. While Logged off players might give some people great PVP challenges, some of us prefer our enemies to be online.

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The Problem I see here with your explaination / justification is the following.

How easy and safe it is to close wormholes is as well easy and safe to roll the wormholes. So where you force "risk-adverse" Players to accept more potential conflict (which could also drive them out of w-space Overall if the feel risk is now to big and not worth the effort) you are hindering as well those parties who use this "easy and safe" mechanic to drive conflicts. I have read with interest stories about ragerolling higher-class wormhole inhabitants to find again a specific wormhole to escalate a conflict. For my understanding this will be more difficult now and the question is, whether all parties can / are willing to make the efforts like before. I really have some serious doubts that you reach the Goal with this idea. Correct me please if I see that wrong.

And then there still remain the big issues you create for the smaller groups in w-space! Less inhabitants means less conflict for pvp-driven Players. Less pvp for them, even if it's just ganking a T1 Drake in a lower class wormhole could mean they move out looking for other opportunities. And what I very often understand from reading wormhole Forum section is that wormhole Players have tried and don't like K-Space life, doesn't matter if for political reason in 0.0, being bored in HiSec or lowsec.

my 2 Cents at the Moment.

As risk averse farmers leave, the value of sleeper salvage should rise. Hopefully players willing to take risk in order to make isk, will take the place of all the players that left.

What is is about wormhole residents then that dictates that they will not occupy space unless they absolutely have a guaranteed way to isolate their system whenever desired? (Ok, that's a bit of hyperbole but it is very close to what is being declared here repeatedly) The threat of conflict will simply force people to leave? Aren't we all under the constant threat of conflict?

I hate the HTFU ideal but seriously, at some point people need to HTFU here. What do low-sec and null-sec entities do when then have threat of conflict? They either ship up or dock up. It really isn't any different for wormhole space except the aspects of a lack of reinforcement avenues. In some ways I wish there was the capability to allow for only WH to WH cynos and only from unconnected chains. It would make for some interesting dynamics.

That is just Not possible and your Statement is incorrect.