Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It might not be completely defined as 'industry', but Industrial Reconfiguration (the skill required to run the industrial core) on the Rorqual is so lacking in value that training it beoynd level one is more of an aesthetic simply to not have a skill at one, than to give any practical use. Given how worthless heavy water is, and how a roughly 30 day train to go from 4 to 5 only saves you 50 heavy water, I think it's pretty clear that the skill rank for the skill is about 7 levels too high.

Tying a cycle time reduction into this skill would be of great benefit in the rorqual rethink, but increasing the bonus of the skill to something like 15 or 17.5% reduction per level would be far more meritous. Dropping heavy water consumption from 1000 to 850 or 800 isn't a worthwhile or noticable benefit, but going from 1000 down to 125 at level 5 would at least create a little less hassle, and over time amount to some notable degree of savings.

Just realized there was a dedicated thread for the new industry skills.
To prevent what would be considered as a spam, here is the link of the thread I've created earlier:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=389267
I read that implementing material efficiency skills has currently a low priority. At least it was the case a few months ago. If this is still the case, please read the thread mentioned above for the reasons why, in my opinion, it shouldn't.

I would introduce Engineering . It will require Research and Science skills too.
Moreover I kept in mind, the META-model will change a bit. Engineering should not result in META-modules!
But I know, this idea requires a change of the item database in line to the ship database recently. You will not have a chance to get Engineering alive with a static item DB with an entry for every item and all of its attributes.

Standard-module -> META-1-module: several attributes changed

Standard-module -> Engineered module: 1 attribute changed per BPC-run in a small amount.
(will usually work for T1 items only)

For engineering you have a choice to change 1 attribute per run from a dropdown list of changeable attributes.
After a max run count of i.e. 5-8, another random fitting attribute of the item would be changed in any disadvantageous way.

Every engineering BPC run will decrease the residual amount of runs.

If you decide to stop the engineering, you are allowed to name and color the item from an ingame palette of colors and names. (corp colors and names included). It's depending on the remaining BPC-runs, how many items you are able to create with the reached item attributes.
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More skills attached to AI could be "construction" skills for future player built structures, like stargates or stations.
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Additionally I think it could be reasonable to have "corporation industry" and "corporation PI" skills. In addition to an advanced rights management for corps, it should be become more useful to have corp industry managers.
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In advance of social skills a "Industrial Connections" skill could be attached. It allows to collect LP and/or corp standing for job installations. A standing above 5.0 should decrease installation costs slightly.
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So you could bring industry skills a bit mor in line with trading, reprocessing and so on.
Industry agents should become possible too. Brings the system in line with career and research agents.

Unless I have been gone from Eve too long, but was there ever an -

****Implant Manufacturing: Requires a cross over of science and industry***

Other ideas

Ship Design Architect: A skill for blue print coping, which allows for incorporating small ship modifications. (not enough to effect ship balancing thou). Perhaps a +/- system, example increase ship speed but decreases power out put. The more changes the longer to make the copy. The higher the skill produces a decrease in time requirements and allows for more complex changes. This would allow for variation in ship types. This might help various regions/play types to build ships more suited for them. Might also help reduce people from building like 500 crows and dumping them on the market. Im assuming a prefix/suffix would need to be added to the ship name for selling it on the market thou.

Here's a thought on a new skill(s) thay may solve a few of the wants. (btw I have not read all the so I may be rehashing).

So these skills would be in the Corporation catagory however they would ultimately be intustry in focus.

Corporate Industrialist: Allows (3-5) corperate owned manufacturing jobs per level. (x5-7 modifier)

Rquitements: Corperate Management 3
Advanced Industry 5
Advanced Mass Prosuction 3
Industry 5

Corporate Level Research: Allows (3-5) corperate owned research/copy jobs per level. (again x5-7)

Requirements: Corperate Management 3
Advanced Industry 5
Advanced Laboratory Operation 3
Research 5


Limitations on use could be but decfinately not limited to the following: Pilot must have rights/roles within corporation that allows access to raw marerials, within high sec they can be run only from the headquarters office, low & null sec need only an office or POS, and as with contracts put a corporate wide, cumulative, maximum number of active jobs that the corporation can have.

This would leave those who hold these possitions within the coperation their personal slots open to use however they want should they so choose and still be productive memebers of the corporation. I realize this would entail a lot of work for our DEV folks but I think this would be a look if not a step in the right direction.

Another skill I would like to see is a skill that increases the effectiveness of standing on corporation tax. The taxes I am talking about are broker fees and refining tax.

Note this is not changing which taxes having standing benefits, just allowing route to make those saving with less standing grind but at the expense of training time.

So at the moment there is a magic number of 6.67 (or thereabouts) for minimum tax in a NPC station. Could we have maybe 4 skills, one for each faction that means you can get that value to only needing 3 or something. You still need positive standing but as an industrial character you don't have to grind missions. You still can but you can also invest training to reduce that.

This has the benefit of allowing players to more easily move industrial bases. If they only need to a effective standing of 3 at a different station then that is less grind and after a while your faction standing may do it opening up entire empires as possible bases.


KIA

Corp Skill: Workflow Management & Adv Workflow Management

Corp management skills get a role bonus +n (static) corporation industry slots, proportionate to the skill. Empire control would get more then corp management.

Skill allows addt'l corp only jobs to be created. Jobs can only be launched for corp and skill tied directly to the CEO. This is a shared pool for all people with the role to use it.

Workflow is ~5% per lvl and Adv is ~15% per level. Mind you this is a pooled resource.

grind lv3 has always been faster. and I would think any skill that makes it easier will be a a couple skill modifiers higher than connections skill is. As if the number is lowered to needing standings of 3.0 you would only need actual standings of 1.3

edit: I'm thinking of a ball park of 30 days as connections 1-5 is only 12.5 days with +3 and a proper remap which is a 3 time skill modifier so like an 8 times modifier which would be 34 days with the same conditions