Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hi everyone,

The Advanced Industry skill has been updated to give 3%/level reduction to all industry jobs (ie anything you can do in the industry window, not just building); this should be rolled out to TQ in the next week or so.

This should give *most* people a decent amount of value, but we'd like to give it some additional oomf. We are therefore planning on adding some more advanced industrial skills with AI at 5 as a prereq, so there's clear benefit to everyone in having it trained (plus it would be nice to have some more skills).

We're expecting this discussion to evolve over the coming weeks as the new system settles down and people figure out what bonuses they'd find most valuable. We'd be looking at shipping these changes in one of the two following scheduled releases, depending on how this discussion goes.

So... discuss! What sorts of advanced industry skills would be good?

-Greyscale

**Sticky** - ISD Cyberdyne

Looking forward to this thread. I'm going to give it a few days to see how things suit.

Not sure how related it is, but how about some equipment reprocessing boost skills

Also, it's easy enough to add skills for material and production efficiency (totally forgot the new names)

Also, how about ship/module specific skills i.e., reduced material req/faster production time for cruisers, or medium turrets (could base it off of BP class)

Also, mineral/component "mastery" skills to allow a builder to reduce material requirements for specific components and minerals (say 1% per level?)

Could also add skills for boosting POS module usage of industry and research things.

When you are adding new industry skills, you should do something to make Battleship Construction V have a use (along with Industrial Construction V, which I believe is also useless).

A promising discussion :)

hmmm, as an economist with factory experience

unfinished production, "work in progress"

ability to start a new production without some of the required materials???

when you get all the needed 'input' you can add it later to the job, which may sit at 80% completion, depending on how much stuff is missing, this way you may save time required for long jobs, while you wait for your components to arrive.


ability to control wastage over time efficiency??

"production efficiency?'

you can speed things up proportionally to increasing the wastage factor, spend more minerals but get your ammunition produced faster. Save some, but job takes a lot longer.


Fine refinement control,

Refining and reprocessing jobs will take time afaik . You may speed things up by 50% when you give up precious and hard to recover trace materials, such as megacyte, morphite, which usually make up 1-2% anyway.

Non stop production cycle

You can produce something without the hassle of manually resetting the jobs, example - ammuniton.

With this skill you can setup extra continuous jobs.

"Production espionage"
You will be able to actually see what sort of things are produced by others, with more detail and station, system, region wide...

Some ideas which you may not like, do not blame me

Just some quick (and possibly terrible) ideas off the top of my head.

Advanced Science: 2% reduced copy time per level, requires Science V and Advanced Industry V, rank 5, int/mem.

Advanced Research: 2% reduced TE research time per level, requires Research V and Advanced Industry V, rank 5, int/mem.

Advanced Metallurgy: 2% reduced ME research time per level, requires Metallurgy V and Advanced Industry V, rank 5, int/mem.

Industrial Process Management: 1% reduction in manufacturing job install costs per level, requires Advanced Mass Production V and Advanced Industry V, rank 9, mem/cha.

Scientific Process Management: 1% reduction in research job install costs per level, requires Advanced Laboratory Operation V and Advanced Industry V, rank 9, int/cha.

Group Dynamics: 2% bonus to team effects per level, requires Social V and Advanced Industry V, rank 6, cha/int.

Edit:

Tinkering: 3% reduced invention job time per level, requires Science V, Jury Rigging V, and Advanced Industry V, rank 5, int/mem.

Specialization skills that further reduce the time for specific types of jobs by 1% per level

Just please don't add anything that reduces costs, as any cost reduction skill will be as mandatory as the old skill was, and thus just a time sink and barrier to entry rather than a meaningful training decision.

Actually please don't add anything. You created actual industry gameplay in crius, that's a good thing, it doesn't have to be accompanied with more skill queue online.

Rapid Prototyping: x% reduction in invention or T2 production time. (As invention seems to be the only thing without a specific global skill)

Exotic Assembly: x% material efficiency for faction production. (With corresponding increase in material requirements for faction BPCs; still not a prereq for entry due to high margins on faction items)