EVE General Discussion

Posting in the not so stealthy "nerf highsec missions and mining" thread.

I remember a thread about how null is too easy to make isk from, some dodgy screenshots and flat-out lies about billions per hour.
Now here we have someone risking chump change and wondering why that isn't making the big big big money.

Would be very confus if i got my info from forum trolls and not from actually getting out there myself. Whines and wild claims get slapped down equally, yielding little insight.

The prospect as an asteroid miner sucks...doesnt have the ore capacity hold to make it profitable.

Now look at the other bonus - Gas mining is where its at. I just spoonfed you.

To gankers and gas miners...Please dont target me for sharing this knowledge.

Wha? Seriously, who mines ore in a Prospect?

Ninja gas sites in wormholes, it's decent money and lots of fun.

We're talking about making ISK. Currency. Money.

I think your statement only applies to null explo.

If done with your corp, mining in null should be accompanied by friends who will undock and blap any WTs if they show up in system. Ratting with friends can also reduce the SP barrier for entry. You can also do ore/ice runs while completely untanked. If you get lucky, you can make some decent ISK.

And there's always fleet roams with salvaging/looting followups. No high SP requirement there, either.

There is no high SP requirement for PI or moon mining.

You can start being plenty useful as an industry player by making ammo. The whole industry chain is fairly SP lite.

Thanks. I think we look like we both visited the same cyborg chop-shop!

This does seem like a fun way to waste time for newbees plus it trains them in the art of covert flying

It is not about high-sec nerf, it is about null-sec buff.

In many aspects the gain in null space is reasonably higher. Missioneering in high can make you up to 40m/h, while doing the same in null is about 100m/h, which seems reasonable to me. Also mining and scanning could - theoretically - earn you a lot more than you could in high-sec, but often other things prevent you from doing it.

The main problem to me seems that null isn't safe, no matter what you do. No matter the precautions, defenses or whatever else you come up with, it seems that you still buy that one red cloaky with the monthly rent. As you cannot tell where (or if) he will strike, you can't just go out and mine/kill/scan as you would in high. So you either need to spent much time waiting for the red to log off, take additional defense ships or subtract the loss of a ship from your income. In all cases this lowers your isk/day, and even if you can make a lot more isk/h when the red is gone for a while, high-sec still has much less trouble with probably the same isk gain over a day.

Now if you happen to be lucky and you play only one or two hours at those times where the local is clear, you can make huge amounts of money. If you happen to be not so lucky and can only play at prime times, you spent much time not earning a single ISK, which can be a very frustrating experience.

Please make sure you do not or a friendly representative of the CODE. will happily pay you a visit. :)