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Pristine White Glaze doesn't look right in the patch notes...

1 unit of White Glaze now yields 69 Heavy Water, 35 Liquid Ozone, 414 Nitrogen Isotopes and 1 Strontium Clathrates
1 unit of Pristine White Glaze now yields 69 Heavy Water, 35 Liquid Ozone, 483 Nitrogen Isotopes and 1 Strontium Clathrates

Compared with all the others that look like:

1 unit of Blue Ice now yields 69 Heavy Water, 35 Liquid Ozone, 414 Oxygen Isotopes and 1 Strontium Clathrates
1 unit of Thick Blue Ice now yields 104 Heavy Water, 55 Liquid Ozone, 483 Oxygen Isotopes and 1 Strontium Clathrates

Might want to add the word "Gleaming" to one of the types of Spodumain as well...

Citation please re: transformation as you described it.

Cool, I missed that.

That one gift to all players still does not alter the fact that this overhaul is an unmitigated disaster for high sec players, low sec cap manufacturers, with yet another massive wealth transfer to the null sec cartels, who architected this whole thing in the first place.

Um...no.

I have spent a great deal of time on Singularity in the past weeks, when it was up.
I read Greyscale's manifesto of hatred of high sec that he posted years ago, and was resurrected on one of the blogger's posts. (Think it was Noizy Gamer)

So yeah, I have given this a lot more thought than the typical null sec propagandist, though I agree no where near the thought given by the null sec cartel industrialists who benefit so hugely from this, and no doubt all ready have incredibly extensive and detailed plans ready to implement as soon as the Crius release is stable.

same

aaahm... and what's about corp standing related productions taxes at NPC stations...?

Thanks for your wall of text without any progress in the topic. But I'd really like to know.

Lady Edit says: Somebody will like the changes others not. That's the way of life always. I will try out and give it a chance. Most I like it becomes less complex and much less clicky.

You guys said one thing early on with the ME and TE and did another. That's shady. Originally you said ME and TE were going to scale evenly i.e. ME was going to be 2% per level and now I see ME 1 being 5% and 6,7,8 and 9 being no improvement what so ever. Shady I tell you shady.

I just wanted to say something here. Most production jobs up until now only made single digit profit margins. So very small changes of even 1% say to the cost of production would be 15-20% of one's profits. That being said it baffles me how you guys are throwing around double digit changes here like there nothing.

I also wanted to note that you are trying to force industrial players which in my opinion are most likely the highest concentration of PvP averse players into null instead of enticing them into null which just seems like a poor decision and to have a complete lack of respect for different play styles.

I've read blogs from gaming industry insiders that have talked on the different player types and how all of them are needed to make an MMO work. iirc there were 5 different base player types. When you try and force one play style that just seems to show an ignorance to that position.

There's a word that I've thrown around here and on other forums for other games most of which are dying that in my opinion to a smart game developer should be an offensive swear word worse than any other. That word is "homogenization". In past expansions you've gotten rid of any difference the various races and bloodline have had between each other then removed all but minor superficial functional difference between the race's ships to the point where now you can just pick which ever races ships you think are prettier because functionally there's not much difference. Now you are trying to homogenize play style so everyone in game will need to run out to null and get involved in sov warfare or GTFO of the game.

I just want to go on record as saying I believe this in general to be poorly thought out and I feel not good for the game at least not for my play style and we'll see or I should say you'll see how it affects subs since you don't publish those numbers anymore. I think it will take probably about a year for things to shake out and for us to really see the effects of this expac but in the future I guess history will tell us.

Under the new system ME does scale evenly.
Time does not scale evenly.

Under the old system ME did not scale evenly.
Time did scale evenly.

So this change was just converting one for the other.

me:+9 will have 9x the savings as me:+1 (you need items that use a lot of small materials to see this, like say battleships).
Each "Level" of me is a "Saving" of 0.01*base, up to a maxium of 10% savings

TE is 2% per level.
CCP were stuck on the conversions and they had to pick the best way to do it. Some people made out like bandits, some got stung hard, and some ended up with nearly the same thing.

It must be said however, that those that got stung hard in the conversion would have had low research, and under this new system they can still bump it up at minimal cost.

How about showing the actual price modifier for manufacturing and other jobs in the Facilities tab and let us sort by that, clicking through them all just to find the actual production price is annoying and unnecessary.

Right now systems with same system price index have very different prices and i though you wanted to remove unnecessary, painful clicking.