EVE General Discussion

Highsec could be far safer than many areas of nullsec, but the players are too lazy to make it that way.

Not lazy.
Ignorant, stupid, self centered, egoistic, self entitled... yes.

Hell, I've seen my share in anti-ganking of these losers.
I keep making sure they get removed because they hurt the cause.

Yes it is, what of it?

It's also one of the more amusing ways of screwing with trade & industry, hauler and miner alts etc. Specifically those hiding in NPC corps and/ or shipping through 3rd party haulers, who will more than likely use NPC alts...*

An NPC corp is a way of avoiding wardecs, suicide ganking is a counter to that, the counter to suicide ganking is to play smarter.

*I'm beginning to sound like a goon

tl;dr is this thread even on topic any more or has it derailed?

Is it really 80 pages of people arguing ganking freighters is fine as is now or not fine?

If it's still on topic:

I personally dislike how easy it is to gank freighters in highsec, but that isn't to say they should be safe. If anything I think the inflation of the EVE economy is the problem here (if there is a problem), not the ships themselves.

To be fair I have had my hauling alts ganked before - nothing over 200m isk lost, and I have ganked before when I used to multibox.

Personal note: Tier 3s BCs should lose 1-2 turret slots only becuase the gap from tier 1+2 BCs to BS is to great and the T3BC is too close to battleship DPS - even though it is "paper thin".

"High Sec is safer than null" is what high sec people tell themselves to preserve their egos.

I once had a guy on here tell me that null was safer because "you have Intel channels so when bad guys are 3 jumps out you know to go dock up, in High Sec you can never tell when someone is going to gank you".

Apparently, D-scan (which you can set to a range close to your ship) can't see Attack BCs or destroyers in high sec.... Also, wormholes (which give no f%^&s about your intel channel) and awoxing aren't things in null sec, we just imagined those.

I told that guy that his way of thinking made as much sense as saying "Beverly Hills is less safe than South Central LA then, because on South Central your homies will holler at you when a rival gang approaches, where as in Beverly Hills every Pamela Anderson plastic surgery fake boobs pet dog carrying Audi A8 driving chick you see could be an Al Queda terrorist waiting to Allahu Akbar your ass".

Whenever someone comes out with null is safer tripe I tell them to run a simple test.

Take an empty, unfitted badger and park it on one of the busy jita gates, see how long it is before someone attacks.

Next take an unfitted badger and park it on a busy null sec gate. Keep on replacing the null sec badger untill the one in jita gets killed.

You're assuming they have corp mates? :)

This is something I'd actually quite like to see the results of, not that I'm in any doubt as to what they would show but the idea is interesting.

You could also try running a hauler through a busy nullsec area for the same number of jumps it takes to get from jita to your mission hub of choice, again comparing the number of haulers lost on each route.

Sell it and buy about 120 T2 Catalysts instead!

the reward he envisioned when he opened fire may never be known by us. but it was appealing enough for him to put his ship at risk.

highsec is the place where concord shoots you for making criminal actions, by the way, nullsec is the one where there's no police. since you were obviously confused between the two.


you wrote the correct thing in quotes by mistake, jenn