EVE General Discussion

How did you get your head to be SO ROUND!?

Sure but, if you're making highsec safer you need to make highsec less lucrative too. Meaning L4 missions now pay what an L1 mission would pay, incursions pay considerably less and highsec systems get made larger for longer warp times.

I'm guessing that there's a correllation happening there.

Gank all the things

I don't think that good antibodies descriminate as to which danger to the body-whole they attempt to eradicate

I dunno

But I suspect my ward would have a better mortality rate if there were no terribad threads

I would have to agree with the OP and players of similar views. I have ganked freighters, blingtastic mission runners in highsec even with my negative sec status in a cheap ship in a 15+ man fleet. I do it because it's allowed, I do it not to profit, but just to blow something up because I'm bored, the bitter vet in me has nothing else to do but that because I've already done it all. Ruining someone else game also sometimes gives me a chuckle but not all the time. It's griefing no matter which way you split it and we all do it or have done it because CCP allows us to.

With that said I do think CCP needs to revisit sec status permission/access to empire systems. They should make it harder but fair for ganking comparable to the risk a freighter pilot has when gankers are around. Right now gankers are the only ones who prosper in this playstyle.
A few things I'd like to see implemented:

• -5.0 to -10 can travel still thru all systems be it in a pod or ship but may only dock with pods. This will allow us to still travel and dock up to do market stuff.
• Once in station we cannot use the stations ship boarding process.. depending on high sec level of system to the players sec status.
• If we wanted to use a ship in systemm we can undock and board a ship while in space just not in the station where we can just sit and wait, wait and wait for ganks.

This would make ganking active and harder instead of just having neut alts at gate or scouting route while we have a fleet of negative sec pilots docked watching a movie stream waiting to undock and gank. You could make new alts specifically for ganking but negative status will rise again and as per CCP you aren't allowed to just delete characters after the neg status is too high. Instead it would force us to have to actively travel from low sec to whatever empire system together to gank something rather than having the instant win routine of staying docked in highsec until there is something to gank. This allows the pilot being bumped time to get away or have back up traveling to try and save him. Or have pods docked up or in a safe spot waiting to warp to a location where ships may be waiting to board to perform the gank. This gives gankers risk involved with ganking. The reason behind all of this.. there is no way you can punish us or get back at us. Wow concord kills us in a 15mil destroyer. Oh my sec status just went down, oh wait I'm already -10. Wardec a thousand man null alliance.. goodluck. Wardec an alt corp only logged in for ganking.. gl. There are truly no real risk for us unlike our targets who really have no protection other than being a space pinata.

Now the only reason I don't see CCP doing anything about this is because this type of game play allows CCP to make money from people buying plex to replace ganked ships or forcing these players to burnisk/use plex they have stored at a very alarming rate. Over the years I've also seen my fair share of many players unsubbing and quit the game because of this playstyle.

That is fact of the matter, something needs to be looked at and maybe my options are not the right ones. BUT anyone who doesn't feel the same about the situation are just bored, wants to see the world burn and/or ruin other peoples game.. all the time. just my .02

After ransoming freighter pilots for safe passage and they deny offer we kill them. Whether active or AFK doesn't matter, they die regardless. Nobody said it would stop us from ganking AFK pilots, we can still travel to AFK ship or board ship in space to gank AFK pilot if truuuly AFK we'll catch em. Right or am I right? Also if you don't like AFK piloting so much and that's your real reason for ganking and not for the tears, profit or out of boredom. THEN maybe CCP should get rid of autopiloting because that's what it's used for AFKing big ass ships.

The current way of things it's too easy to gank, and like OP said ganking things of little to no value "just cause" has because the thing to do.

Let's be real.

Sure

Want them to wipe your butt for you too?

Nah you seemed to be butthurt about AFK piloting players my friend, maybe they need to wipe yours. Let's stick to the true problem here.

Maybe they buy permits from CODE?