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Has suicide ganking become a problem? Empty freighters being ganked.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#821 - 2014-06-23 21:14:13 UTC
ISD Supogo wrote:
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Sweet

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#822 - 2014-06-23 21:16:01 UTC
So I guess all the ISDs are watching the football while moderating.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#823 - 2014-06-23 21:18:06 UTC
ISD Supogo wrote:
Removed several insulting and offensive posts.


Supogo, best pogo.


That made no sense.

But then again, neither does most of this thread.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#824 - 2014-06-23 21:51:27 UTC
ISD Supogo wrote:
Removed several insulting and offensive posts.

Amazing the fanatics can RP and littler the forums with tripe and dribble, but you can't RP back at them as a Republican.

Pfft :D

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Thomas Mayaki
Perkone
Caldari State
#825 - 2014-06-23 22:35:17 UTC
I guess it was only time before the New Order gave up ganking miners. Of course there will always be an occasional gank loss but it was time for them to move on to easier targets.

Anyway wishing them all the best in their new endeavour as the price of isotopes hits 1066. Damn those afk miners are raking it in :)
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#826 - 2014-06-23 22:38:47 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
ISD Supogo wrote:
Removed several insulting and offensive posts.

Amazing the fanatics can RP and littler the forums with tripe and dribble, but you can't RP back at them as a Republican.

Pfft :D

you're not getting the message, are you?
Soylent Jade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#827 - 2014-06-23 22:44:22 UTC
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
I guess it was only time before the New Order gave up ganking miners. Of course there will always be an occasional gank loss but it was time for them to move on to easier targets.

Anyway wishing them all the best in their new endeavour as the price of isotopes hits 1066. Damn those afk miners are raking it in :)


Miners are still exploding, it's just that freighters are higher profile and generate more forum tears.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#828 - 2014-06-23 22:45:41 UTC
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
I guess it was only time before the New Order gave up ganking miners.


When did that happen?

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"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#829 - 2014-06-23 22:54:04 UTC
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
I guess it was only time before the New Order gave up ganking miners. Of course there will always be an occasional gank loss but it was time for them to move on to easier targets.

Anyway wishing them all the best in their new endeavour as the price of isotopes hits 1066. Damn those afk miners are raking it in :)


I think its more that they have been unable to expand much beyond the half dozen or so 0.5 and 0.6 systems between Dodi and Hek they habitually try to control and a lot of the miners have probably just moved elsewhere. The same area IS however a freighter pipeline.
Thomas Mayaki
Perkone
Caldari State
#830 - 2014-06-24 00:10:11 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
I guess it was only time before the New Order gave up ganking miners.


When did that happen?


It happened when they decided to gank freighters rather than mining barges. When the Conference Elite redeployed from Isanamo they also left that area pretty much without any cover. The amount of people within the New Order that can gank effectively isn't as large as what people think, this explains their switch to mass gank easier targets.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#831 - 2014-06-24 01:48:22 UTC
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
I guess it was only time before the New Order gave up ganking miners.


When did that happen?


It happened when they decided to gank freighters rather than mining barges. When the Conference Elite redeployed from Isanamo they also left that area pretty much without any cover. The amount of people within the New Order that can gank effectively isn't as large as what people think, this explains their switch to mass gank easier targets.


Go to Zkill, and look up Ordion.

I assure you, they are still ganking miners.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
45thtiger 0109
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#832 - 2014-06-24 02:05:08 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
ISD Supogo wrote:
Removed several insulting and offensive posts.


Supogo, best pogo.


That made no sense.

But then again, neither does most of this thread.



I like your sense of humor Unsuccessful At Everything LolP

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Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#833 - 2014-06-24 04:34:20 UTC
For some of the stuff I can see where the OP is coming from.

I'd made like 10 jumps through that system over a few days. It was the same group of CODE players each time.
We need gankers, to help keep a good flow of ships through the market.

I'd go for more CONCORD action on players who major negative security statues. At some point in time a player with -10 shouldn't be able to fly through hi-sec. Or when CONCORD blows up their ships, they can kill the pod as well.

Take a few tips from the Mafia. They handle the trash for the big cities. When a dead bodies shows up, some money crosses hands. Sometimes someone goes to jail or dies as well.

--Harsher punishment for ganking, the lower your Security Status is.

Then again. I use red frog, and I don't think anyone attacks them.

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Thomas Mayaki
Perkone
Caldari State
#834 - 2014-06-24 09:25:40 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
I guess it was only time before the New Order gave up ganking miners.


When did that happen?


It happened when they decided to gank freighters rather than mining barges. When the Conference Elite redeployed from Isanamo they also left that area pretty much without any cover. The amount of people within the New Order that can gank effectively isn't as large as what people think, this explains their switch to mass gank easier targets.


Go to Zkill, and look up Ordion.

I assure you, they are still ganking miners.


I'll send a retriever Alt the 24jumps to mine in Ordion for a couple of days. I'll get back to you if I find anything.
Lianara Dayton
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#835 - 2014-06-24 09:35:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Lianara Dayton
Oh, this thread again.... yes, yes I know, EVE is dying! The sky is falling!! All because of the evil evil gankers! Now they are even ganking people in empty ships!! Oh noes! Teh end-times are neigh!!!! Pirate

On a (slightly) more serious note: my dear EVE rookies in this thread... suicide ganking has been a part of EVE ever since the very beginning (you know, back then when your parents were still wondering what High School they'd send you to) and EVE hasn't died yet... so don't fret.

Sure, some people may quit due to being suicide ganked but look at it like this: EVE is a harsh world where painful losses are a fact of live. If people are going to quit because they were killed "unfairly" then nobody (least of all CCP) will be particularly sad to see them go. If they hadn't quit because of the suicide gank then they would have quit in 3 months after their risk-averse playstyle of mine-the-roid or run-the-mission got boring and they finally realized that EVE just might not be the game for them. All that the suicide gankers are doing is helping certain players to realize that fact a little sooner.

The player-base that's been keeping this game running with their decade-long subscriptions and multiple accounts are massively in favor of suicide ganking (or well, perhaps not in favor of suicide ganking per-se but at least in favor of not making it impossible just to keep a few more boring carebears in high-sec for a few extra months).

So I guess all there is to say is: kthxbye. Blink

Lianara Dayton, Society for Peace and Unity
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#836 - 2014-06-24 09:59:14 UTC
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
I guess it was only time before the New Order gave up ganking miners.


When did that happen?


It happened when they decided to gank freighters rather than mining barges. When the Conference Elite redeployed from Isanamo they also left that area pretty much without any cover. The amount of people within the New Order that can gank effectively isn't as large as what people think, this explains their switch to mass gank easier targets.


Go to Zkill, and look up Ordion.

I assure you, they are still ganking miners.


I'll send a retriever Alt the 24jumps to mine in Ordion for a couple of days. I'll get back to you if I find anything.


Say hi to Aaaarg for me.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Thomas Mayaki
Perkone
Caldari State
#837 - 2014-06-24 10:01:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Thomas Mayaki
Lianara Dayton wrote:
Oh, this thread again.... yes, yes I know, EVE is dying! The sky is falling!! All because of the evil evil gankers! Now they are even ganking people in empty ships!! Oh noes! Teh end-times are neigh!!!! Pirate

On a (slightly) more serious note: my dear EVE rookies in this thread... suicide ganking has been a part of EVE ever since the very beginning (you know, back then when your parents were still wondering what High School they'd send you to) and EVE hasn't died yet... so don't fret.

Sure, some people may quit due to being suicide ganked but look at it like this: EVE is a harsh world where painful losses are a fact of live. If people are going to quit because they were killed "unfairly" then nobody (least of all CCP) will be particularly sad to see them go. If they hadn't quit because of the suicide gank then they would have quit in 3 months after their risk-averse playstyle of mine-the-roid or run-the-mission got boring and they finally realized that EVE just might not be the game for them. All that the suicide gankers are doing is helping certain players to realize that fact a little sooner.

The player-base that's been keeping this game running with their decade-long subscriptions and multiple accounts are massively in favor of suicide ganking (or well, perhaps not in favor of suicide ganking per-se but at least in favor of not making it impossible just to keep a few more boring carebears in high-sec for a few extra months).

So I guess all there is to say is: kthxbye. Blink


You seem to be against people whining on the forums and yet you do it so well.
It is every Eve players god given right to through the teddy bear from the pram. Get use to it!
Lianara Dayton
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#838 - 2014-06-24 10:16:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Lianara Dayton
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
Lianara Dayton wrote:
Oh, this thread again.... yes, yes I know, EVE is dying! The sky is falling!! All because of the evil evil gankers! Now they are even ganking people in empty ships!! Oh noes! Teh end-times are neigh!!!! Pirate

On a (slightly) more serious note: my dear EVE rookies in this thread... suicide ganking has been a part of EVE ever since the very beginning (you know, back then when your parents were still wondering what High School they'd send you to) and EVE hasn't died yet... so don't fret.

Sure, some people may quit due to being suicide ganked but look at it like this: EVE is a harsh world where painful losses are a fact of live. If people are going to quit because they were killed "unfairly" then nobody (least of all CCP) will be particularly sad to see them go. If they hadn't quit because of the suicide gank then they would have quit in 3 months after their risk-averse playstyle of mine-the-roid or run-the-mission got boring and they finally realized that EVE just might not be the game for them. All that the suicide gankers are doing is helping certain players to realize that fact a little sooner.

The player-base that's been keeping this game running with their decade-long subscriptions and multiple accounts are massively in favor of suicide ganking (or well, perhaps not in favor of suicide ganking per-se but at least in favor of not making it impossible just to keep a few more boring carebears in high-sec for a few extra months).

So I guess all there is to say is: kthxbye. Blink


You seem to be against people whining on the forums and yet you do it so well.
It is every Eve players god given right to through the teddy bear from the pram. Get use to it!


I generally have no problem with whining as a means to influence public opinion on the forums etc. (as you said I do the same). I just have problems with rookies trying to use their whining skills to destroy the very foundation that make EVE a truly great game and not just another generic WOW-in-space.

Maybe that makes me a hypocrite... but somehow I'll sleep tonight. Blink

Lianara Dayton, Society for Peace and Unity
Soylent Jade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#839 - 2014-06-24 12:19:35 UTC
https://eve-kill.net/?a=alliance_detail&view=kills&all_id=8504&m=6&y=2014

CODE. has blown up 1385 barges and exhumers so far this month, so...yeah we're not killing miners anymore lol.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#840 - 2014-06-24 12:35:16 UTC
Thomas Mayaki wrote:
Lianara Dayton wrote:
Oh, this thread again.... yes, yes I know, EVE is dying! The sky is falling!! All because of the evil evil gankers! Now they are even ganking people in empty ships!! Oh noes! Teh end-times are neigh!!!! Pirate

On a (slightly) more serious note: my dear EVE rookies in this thread... suicide ganking has been a part of EVE ever since the very beginning (you know, back then when your parents were still wondering what High School they'd send you to) and EVE hasn't died yet... so don't fret.

Sure, some people may quit due to being suicide ganked but look at it like this: EVE is a harsh world where painful losses are a fact of live. If people are going to quit because they were killed "unfairly" then nobody (least of all CCP) will be particularly sad to see them go. If they hadn't quit because of the suicide gank then they would have quit in 3 months after their risk-averse playstyle of mine-the-roid or run-the-mission got boring and they finally realized that EVE just might not be the game for them. All that the suicide gankers are doing is helping certain players to realize that fact a little sooner.

The player-base that's been keeping this game running with their decade-long subscriptions and multiple accounts are massively in favor of suicide ganking (or well, perhaps not in favor of suicide ganking per-se but at least in favor of not making it impossible just to keep a few more boring carebears in high-sec for a few extra months).

So I guess all there is to say is: kthxbye. Blink


You seem to be against people whining on the forums and yet you do it so well.
It is every Eve players god given right to through the teddy bear from the pram. Get use to it!



Telling it like it is is not 'whining'.

Lianara isn't asking for anything (pretty much a prerequisite for whining), simply pointing out that the problem lies not with the people playing the game in legal and traditional fashion (yep, ganking in a non-consensual pvp game is traditional), but rather with the oversensitive people who choose to play this game without considering how the game actually is.