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Has suicide ganking become a problem? Empty freighters being ganked.

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Adira Nictor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#761 - 2014-06-22 23:31:09 UTC
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:
Adira Nictor wrote:

I am going to have to make a ganker alt, and I blame you. Hope to see Aufay soon!


Hah! I'll gladly take that blame. After you get that alt created you should head over to the blog at minerbumping.com and explore a bit - you will find a treasure trove of information to help you plan your skill path to get as much DPS on the field as quickly as you can, and everything you could ever want to know about the mechanics of high-sec warfare, CONCORD, and how to use every game mechanic possible to your advantage.

And don't forget - New Order Logistics (A proud member of the CODE. Alliance!) is openly accepting applications and will provide you with plenty of hands on experience and a bunch of fun! Look them up, you will be glad you did. I hear there are some pretty cool dudes in that corp :-)


I get my dose of Minerbumping.com every day, But after stalking you around the forums along with other code. members it just looks like something worth getting into while im in downtime on my other profession.
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#762 - 2014-06-22 23:38:39 UTC
Wait, are people actually taking DrysonBennington's suggestions?

The dude who told you to smartbomb off gates in Hisec, haul cargo in a dual-tanked 5-plate Typhoon, and fit Drone Navigation Computers to your Augorors is not who you should be taking your queues from.
DJentropy Ovaert
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#763 - 2014-06-23 00:02:01 UTC
Voyager Arran wrote:
Wait, are people actually taking DrysonBennington's suggestions?

The dude who told you to smartbomb off gates in Hisec, haul cargo in a dual-tanked 5-plate Typhoon, and fit Drone Navigation Computers to your Augorors is not who you should be taking your queues from.


Yes, people really are.

But let's just be real for a second here - who are we to question the brilliance of DrysonBennington? With 47 ships destroyed during his time as a well established master in PVP strategy he's beyond qualified to guide other players in the field of PVP strategy.

Need more proof? Of those 47 kills, TWO of them do not involve doing a trivial amount of damage to a ship that was in the process of being destroyed by concord! In one amazing display of tactics, he managed to destroy the Rookie ship of one of his bros, and on the other kill - he brought down the powerhouse that is the Caldari Navy Hookbill.

Good times. Really, if I stopped laughing I just might have to cry :(
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#764 - 2014-06-23 03:47:08 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
The trouble with removing FacPo is no one gives a shizzle about him next door. I would hazard a guess that a fleet of 20 or so Anti-gankers, following the gankers would eradicate them. Even CODE would soon disappear, as it would soon become boring for the bandwagonners, without the kills Try getting those 20 or so players, PVE'ers just don't care, until their ship blows up. Then the either rage quit, or just buy a new ship.


Who siad the PvErs would be running the cops, or the Health and Safety Executive, or the law courts?

Who says NEW ORDER OF HIGH SEC wouldnt decide they wanted the badge?

I know a lot of folk who wouldnt mind wearing a nice yellow star


We already are the cops. Its just the magic space NPCs that think they are cops that are the problem. Get rid of those and Code will patrol Hisec and keep it safe for decent, at the controls, pilots.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#765 - 2014-06-23 04:13:23 UTC
Noragli wrote:
I want to point out the kills made by the character loyalanon and his buddies, specifically many of the kills made in Aufay (0.5) on 14th june. You can find them on eve-kill.net

I am not linking direct to the killboard, but his group (mostly his corporation "The Conference Elite" and a few others, suicide ganked freighters, many of them empty or carrying nothing of value. They also targetted other ships of value where they could cause a large isk loss to the player, even if they were certain to get nothing out of it for themselves.

It used to be just the freighters carrying too high value cargo that were targetted, but now, even empty ships are targetted.

I personally don't care if changes are made to fix this or not. It doesn't affect me directly, I do not use frieghters or other high value ships. This is just an observation I made, a line was crossed when they started targetting empty ships just for the sake of it. Is it time for change?

A -10 character, or a character with sec status below the accepted system minimum requirement should not be able to chain gank people. They should be barred from boarding a ship in high security space, or at least barred from entering warp in any ship except for a pod. It's exactly the same as when a concord flagged player tries to undock in a ship or board a ship, concord has you blocked from activating your warp drive. If concord can already do this, then there's no reason why they can't do this automatically to players who fall below the minimum system security status. They can still travel through empire in a pod, they just can't chain gank people. It's stupid that concord would allow this to happen.


Who says they aren't producing a shitload of freighters themself (with main / alts) and are just creating a market for it themselfs.

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loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#766 - 2014-06-23 05:40:11 UTC
Freighter pilots,

The day of reckoning has come, for too long you have blatantly defied the New Order and our Saviour James 315.

Get your mining permit today for 10mil isk per year and be saved through the love that was given to us by our Saviour.

Be saved my brethren, and embrace the Code, so that you too may be judged without sin on the day of judgement day.

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither AFK'ers, nor Autopiloters, nor Bot-Aspirants will be saved in the last days. Reach up to the Saviour and be cleansed of your sins for I am the Saviours war piece sent to New Eden to bring judgement to these heretics.
412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#767 - 2014-06-23 05:46:09 UTC
loyalanon wrote:
Freighter pilots,

The day of reckoning has come, for too long you have blatantly defied the New Order and our Saviour James 315.

Get your mining permit today for 10mil isk per year and be saved through the love that was given to us by our Saviour.

Be saved my brethren, and embrace the Code, so that you too may be judged without sin on the day of judgement day.

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither AFK'ers, nor Autopiloters, nor Bot-Aspirants will be saved in the last days. Reach up to the Saviour and be cleansed of your sins for I am the Saviours war piece sent to New Eden to bring judgement to these heretics.




And James 315 said, Let us make an Alliance, after our Code: and let them have dominion over the Miners of the Belts, and over the Orcas, and over the Bot-Aspirants, and over all the freighters, and over every freighter that Autopilot upon New Eden

A True Champion of High Security Space
loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#768 - 2014-06-23 05:48:17 UTC
Thou shalt not autopilot in a freighter, as with a pod: it is an abomination.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#769 - 2014-06-23 05:56:11 UTC
J'Poll wrote:

Who says they aren't producing a shitload of freighters themself (with main / alts) and are just creating a market for it themselfs.



I don't build freighters, but I certainly do trade in mining equipment. Although stocks are low now, at several times I have owned more than three billion ISK worth of exhumer hulls, barge hulls and/or other mining contraband.

Ganking expenditure is written off as a marketing expense. And suspicious sales are, of course, referred to the proper authorities.

If I had sufficient capital to do it efficiently, I would certainly be offering freighters for sale in areas where pilots are anticipated to lose them.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Clara Pond
Never Not Snazzy
#770 - 2014-06-23 05:58:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Clara Pond
And James 315 spake saying: "First, thou shalt bump the freighter. Then though shalt count to three. No more, no less. Three shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four thou shalt not count, nor thou count thee two; excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Then, once the number three be reached, being the third number of the counting, warpeth thee thy Taloses towards thy foe; who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#771 - 2014-06-23 06:48:30 UTC
Clara Pond wrote:
And James 315 spake saying: "First, thou shalt bump the freighter. Then though shalt count to three. No more, no less. Three shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four thou shalt not count, nor thou count thee two; excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Then, once the number three be reached, being the third number of the counting, warpeth thee thy Taloses towards thy foe; who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."



Please do not make me laugh this hard when I am at work.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#772 - 2014-06-23 06:56:26 UTC
Adira Nictor wrote:


I am going to have to make a ganker alt, and I blame you. Hope to see Aufay soon!


You truly are the Good Sebiestor

May Omir Sarakusa (PBUH) bless the path you walk, and not cross it.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#773 - 2014-06-23 07:16:03 UTC
James 315 is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in the asteroid belt: he leadeth me beside the gates.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of Aufay, I will fear no evil: for the code is with me; thy blaster and thy catalyst they comfort me.

Thou preparest a freighter before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with his blessing; my overheat runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of Code. forever.
ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#774 - 2014-06-23 09:44:22 UTC
its kinda funny because suicide ganking only got worse after the retribution patch that was supposed to help curbe this. Blink
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#775 - 2014-06-23 09:52:52 UTC
ImYourMom wrote:
its kinda funny because suicide ganking only got worse after the retribution patch that was supposed to help curbe this. Blink



No, it didnt.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#776 - 2014-06-23 10:02:21 UTC
ImYourMom wrote:
its kinda funny because suicide ganking only got worse after the retribution patch that was supposed to help curbe this. Blink



It's kinda funny because ganking only got more difficult after the Retribution patch which killed off the casual ganker & made groups like Code & Miniluv even more prominent.

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#777 - 2014-06-23 10:47:45 UTC
The Agent said to the Freighter pilot, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for your corp mate, who was terminated. He is not here; he was podded back to his station, just as we said. Come and see the place where he died and lost all his stuff. Then go quickly and tell your other corp mates: ‘He was podded for his crimes and is going ahead of you into WoW. There you will see him.’ Now I have told you.”

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#778 - 2014-06-23 10:54:00 UTC
There is no Saviour but James 315 and Omir Sarakusa is his Prophet (PBUH)

La ilaha illjames

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Zotken Mikakka
Memes and Shitstack Emporium
Goonswarm Federation
#779 - 2014-06-23 11:11:09 UTC
We shall join the code, and liberate a system of our choosing!
Grobalobobob Bob
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#780 - 2014-06-23 11:12:01 UTC
It just comes back down to the whole bumping thing. Bumping should be effective ONLY ships of /- a percentage equal or greater size and mass of the ship you're bumping.

It's like a kid on a surfboard bumping an oil tanker.. it's just ridiculous. Really, you should need something the same size as a freighter to bump a freighter, anything smaller should just glance off like it doesn't exist.