EVE General Discussion

Totally agree on the last statement.

Emergent gameplay is stifled when a player's primary interaction is with NPCs.

It was particularly funny to see the variety of words they choose. I mean, it was ranging from "Allahu Ackbar!" to long scientific walls of text about Nitrogene Isotopes (recent examples during Caldari Ice Interdiction 2013).

+1 to FacPo elimination. It's basically just limiting player-to-player interaction. Not good for a MMO game. Just make neg sec status players legal targets to all, based on system security level.

I would even give a thought about revoking highsec docking rights based on sec status (-2.0 can't dock in 1.0, -2.5 in 0.9 and so forth). Would encourage highsec pirate/ganking organizations to build their own bases of operation (POS).

Easy to do now that POS will be free to setup anywhere, without faction standings requisites.

Would also give 'white knights' something to attack (POS), if they're up to the challenge.

That's fantastic. +1

If people really believe that removing the faction police will suddenly
make all these gankers not hide in station all day ...
... and encourage players to hunt and kill them ...

... you'll probably have a bad time once this propaganda bullshit about the faction police stops ...
... and they are removed from the game.


Again, I can not stress enough that the faction police is no big deal, at all,
and definitely not the reason why people stay docked. Anybody who claims otherwise
is either a liar, lacks player-skill, or has no understanding of what I am talking about.


You people just want to make the game easier for those who have choosen to
play it in the easiest way possible already.

And instead of saying the same things carebears would get as echo,
because they are gankers, suddenly there's a mechanic that needs to be changed,
although it's the players themselves who simply choose to play like carebears.


You're all nuts. "Thank you" for trying to make ganking even more easy,
completely taking the last challenging bit away from it.


Because PLAYERS are no issue at all. They never were. Neither faction police nor
players ever could stop me from being in space all day in my thrasher.
My Hoarder. My Tornado. My Tempest. Yes ... Tempest. In 0.5, 0.6, 0.7.

Yet, lots of people claim it's not possible and the sheep blindly follow.

It's not my fault you people deliberately choose to hide. From my perspective,
you're like carebears whining about a mechanic you want gone,
although it's your own decision to hide from them... and all the players outside.


Anybody who claims this is bullshit, can come visit me.
Fly with me.
Gank something with me.

Or just watch me.

Pick any system, it doesn't matter.

0.5 to 1.0 are equal for me.




But stop trying to dumb down the game for people who deliberately choose to play easy mode.

The mechanic is fine as it is and removing the faction police will only make it worse for you all.

You just have no idea what you're actually wishing for.


Now, is there anybody out there who actually can put thought into this,
instead of repeating the same lies over and over and over again?

No, it's not limited.

You don't understand my perspective and don't have my experience.

I seem to be the only one with actual long time experience regarding fighting players as -10,
without dieing to the faction police. Without getting killed. With making people run away or dock up
in my 50km thrasher, 50-100km Tornado, 1400mm, with or without MJD Tempest.

Unlike you I know from experience that players rather hide at the station or within docking range.


A tiny, tiny fraction of players ever actively tried to get me. I can count them on one hand.
And I was active for MONTHS, every day, through out the day, as my former killboard can prove you easily.


You just don't understand what you're wishing for.


It would already be easily possible for any bigger group of gankers to field howevermany catalysts they can,
fly around in space all day, on grid, bouncing around, spreading fear. Easily doable.
All day, every day, every system.

Instead, they want the faction police gone, to make this even easier. Then, definitely, the big blog of RED
will come and kill everybody and there will be no opposition, simply because it's highsec ...

... and we both know highseccers, don't we?


I mean, seriously, have you read what people claim? They believe it's some sort of big achievement
to be able to FC a blog of gankers around in highsec. I can not even understand how anybody would
believe that, unless he simply has no understanding of what he is talking about.

It's bullshit. It's not a big deal. At all. The same for the logistics. It's not a big deal at all to find somebody
who builds all the necessary equipment and delivers it. Hundreds of thrashers with fittings I've owned,
spread throughout Gallente, Minmatar and Caldari space easily prove this. All player made and delivered.



These people just inflate this to a big deal, while it is not ... and I hope the devs rather listen to somebody
who has actual understanding and experience of this, instead listening to those who deliberately choose
to not undock, although there's no reason not to.

Wow ... you too start with this bullshit.

How about adressing the post, instead of going ad hominem?

Do you have anything valid, actually about the topic to say,
or do you prefer being a parrot, spreading misinformation and lies?


Do you have ANY practical proof that the faction police is such a big issue?

I have LOTS of proof I can practically show you, that they aren't !


I don't need words to prove a point, I can easily show you.

But everybody else seems to only have words to make a claim that's practically wrong.

The proof you're talking about, on your end, consists of "I have to jump through hoops to deal with facpo."

Which doesn't really help your case. Everyone here already knows that it can be done. Orcas exist. Safespot stashes exist. Warp chains exist.

Given that isnt what I said at all, you clearly have no idea what either I or yourself are talking about

Take your self-absorbed claptrap elsewhere as rational thought appears to have left you today

8 years of running valuable cargoes though empire - hi-sec and lo-sec.

Never been ganked once.

Use a blockade runner, learn to cloak, learn to look at the damb map.