EVE General Discussion

i'm not sure what you are saying. The question to be answered is: if you take a freighter into Uedama, what are the chances of it xlpoding. You would need to know (1) the number of freighters blown up in Uedama for the day and (2) the number of Freighters that went into Uedama for the day. Then you would divide (1) by (2). Trying to use total ships jumping or total ships blown up, is... well....bad. And since we don't know (2) any kind of probabilistic analysis is...well....bad.

We could have someone sit on the gate with a counter and count for us....it would be an interesting experiment if anyone wants something to do for 23.5 hours....

When someone is ill, their symptoms can worsen as their body works to fight off the malady. The fever pitch (pun intended) this thread is reaching seems to be the infection of bot aspirancy being driven out by the cleansing power of CODE.

I understand the question. In the past 24 hours there was a 0.22% chance of your ship exploding there, regardless of type therefore the chance of a freighter exploding has to be less than that (unless every ship killed was a freighter).

But CCP repeatedly stated that unintended and unanticipated actions of players are a good thing, so this analogy is just not working. For example wormholes where never ment to be colonized, they where thinking that living there would be a logistical nightmare and no one would do it. They where amazed by what the players did with the place.


They did it because an extremely vocal minority of carebears cried in the forums kinda like now with the difference that most of the real players did not give a frak about the forums and ignored the tears until it was too late.

This is what brings me here. I don't write here to convince you with my arguments, I and many others are here to counter your flawed reasoning with sound arguments so that the reader and CCP dev with brain who actually reads this threads full of carebear tears sees that there are people who care about the game and why ideas like yours go against the core of the game and will damage it even more and maybe forever.

You cant ask others to provide data to support their position if yours isnt equally supported.

You need to go first.

If you dont, your position is baseless.

I see what you're saying but I don't see what value that number would have unless you want to run around screaming the sky is falling because 100% of freighters that jump into a system die. The number that matters in your scenario is 1%.

Well.... looking at zkill there are no freighter/orca deaths showing in Uedama for today, there were 8 yesterday. Considering Uedama is a choke point on a trade pipe I would hazard a very conservative guess that at least 10% of the jumps through Uedama were freighters.

Assuming my conservative estimate of 10% is true and we cut the total jumps for the system in 2 to allow for entering and leaving the system, a sub 2% death rate over the weekend, a traditionally good time to kill folks, is hardly "endless ganking" and that 2% includes war decs.

The true percentage of freighter traffic through Uedama is probably much higher, and thus the death rate a lot lower.

Evidentially your math is as poor as your game knowledge.

It would also follow that if they were ganking freighters in Uedama, they werent doing it so much elsewhere. As there are more gates outside Uedama (and freighters) than inside, I would like to thank CODE for preventing ganking in the rest of New Eden and securing the transit of freighters in the rest of space by not being there.

Is that how this works? Becuase CODE are the only gankers that matter, right? Because only they affect Freighter losses galaxy wide, right?

So why havent you?

All the raw data is on zkill, feel free to go look.

Code are destroying fewer freighters than we were at this point last year.