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Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden Likes received: 601	#2981 - 2014-09-01 17:52:11 UTC And personally I am fine with suicide ganking, when done to make a profit, and subject to reasonable risk/reward. I think that CODE is breaking the balance, and hence why I am raising these issue on the forums.

Solecist Project

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#2982 - 2014-09-01 17:53:12 UTC | Edited by: Solecist Project

Tbh I prefer what the guy in the corp says ...
... over what the coward hiding behind the npc alt says.

Still no reason to assume it's not actually the same person.

I'm not willing to look into it ... but I would totally understand it,
considering the fact that he has literally NO ONE agreeing with him.

Which, of course, does not make him realise anything at all.

I still do believe that he is a CODE alt too.

What CODE does is ridiculously NOTHING compared to all the other ganking out there.

The ISK amount is high, but the actual impact is almost ZERO!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Ramona McCandless

Silent Vale

LinkNet

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#2983 - 2014-09-01 17:54:22 UTC | Edited by: Ramona McCandless

Veers Belvar wrote:

And personally I am fine with suicide ganking, when done to make a profit, and subject to reasonable risk/reward. I think that CODE is breaking the balance, and hence why I am raising these issue on the forums.

So identifying themselves and announcing their presence is bad for the game?

How do you figure that?

And you just said effectively that the play style of others is fine IF it meets your criteria for acceptable. You realise that too, right?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Veers Belvar

Swordmasters of New Eden

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#2984 - 2014-09-01 17:54:47 UTC

Ramona McCandless wrote:

Veers Belvar wrote:

I also think that CODE is pushing things in a negative direction by, inter alia, ganking empty frreighters.

So when other people did it, that was ok?

When gankers only ever came at you without wearing an armband that said "Im a ganker, I will kill you if I want", that was ok?

Sure, when people haul 1 bil in a wreathe, they deserve to die. What that don't deserve is to bring an Orca with 300k + ehp ino Uedama, survive a gank attempt by some 20 or so CODE -10 gankers at 20% structure, get saved by CONCORD, and then get pinned down by bumpers for 15 minutes making it impossible for them to warp off, with CONCORD not responsing, so the exact same CODE gankers could come and finish the job.

In no way does that reflect CONCORD acting as a "law enforcement agency."

Tippia

Sunshine and Lollipops

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#2985 - 2014-09-01 17:55:03 UTC

Veers Belvar wrote:

I also think that CODE is pushing things in a negative direction by, inter alia, ganking empty frreighters.

Why is that a negative?

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A lot of people join this game for the cooperative PvE aspects, not to subject themselves to endless suicide ganking by -10 sec status folks looking for tears.

So? They joined the game they actually had no interest in and without doing any research. How is that a reason for fundamentally altering the game?

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The same one who said that CONCORD acts "as any law enforcement agency," right?

…except that he didn't say that, and CONCORD is not a law enforcement agency.

NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote:

I think they are really pathetic and add nothing to the game.

So why do you keep playing if the game is purposefully designed to work the exact opposite way by devs who fundamentally disagree with you?

Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 4,565
Benny Ohu Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire Likes received: 4,565	#2986 - 2014-09-01 17:56:08 UTC 1 Veers Belvar wrote: I think that CODE is breaking the balance, i believe we're still owed the graph jonah mentioned

Veers Belvar

Swordmasters of New Eden

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#2987 - 2014-09-01 17:56:08 UTC

Solecist Project wrote:

I am a major opponent of CODE, their #1 enemy, please check minerbumping.com, where I did a 2 hour TS session with them. Try to minimize the false accusations, thanks.

Ramona McCandless

Silent Vale

LinkNet

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#2988 - 2014-09-01 17:56:58 UTC

Veers Belvar wrote:

Why do you get to decide why people should get murdered?

And when did I mention CONCORD?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

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baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Horde Likes received: 19,001	#2989 - 2014-09-01 17:57:37 UTC Still waiting on that link from my guys that shows 1.4 freighters die per day.

Tippia

Sunshine and Lollipops

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#2990 - 2014-09-01 17:57:59 UTC

Veers Belvar wrote:

What that don't deserve is to bring an Orca with 300k + ehp ino Uedama, survive a gank attempt by some 20 or so CODE -10 gankers at 20% structure, get saved by CONCORD, and then get pinned down by bumpers for 15 minutes making it impossible for them to warp off, with CONCORD not responsing, so the exact same CODE gankers could come and finish the job.

Except that what you describe can't happen — the game mechanics simply don't allow for it. And if someone manages to get stuck for 15 minutes just because of some bumpers, then yes, they deserve to explode for their incompetence.

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In no way does that reflect CONCORD acting as a "law enforcement agency."

That's because CONCORD isn't a law enforcement agency and isn't supposed or intended to act as one.

Solecist Project

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#2991 - 2014-09-01 17:58:45 UTC

Sure, if you stop making an issue out of nothing,
then I will stop with "accusations" whatsoever. :)

CODE is irrelevant in the big picture,
yet you insist on them creating an imbalance that is not there.

It's YOU and YOU only who makes them look so extremely relevant.

(:
:)

Eve Cluster Explorations 2,059
Crumplecorn Eve Cluster Explorations Likes received: 2,059	#2992 - 2014-09-01 17:58:59 UTC Veers Belvar wrote: What that don't deserve I'd be fascinated to know what units 'deservedness' is measured in. Witty Image - Stream Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment

Veers Belvar

Swordmasters of New Eden

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#2993 - 2014-09-01 18:00:13 UTC

Solecist Project wrote:

YOU accused me of being a CODE alt. Please see http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/08/the-accusation.html

Would you now like to apologize and retract your accusation? It's ok to admit that you lied, I won't hold it against you. I'm always happy to educate new players and help them understand the game.


Benny Ohu Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire Likes received: 4,565	#2994 - 2014-09-01 18:00:32 UTC baltec1 wrote: Still waiting on that link from my guys that shows 1.4 freighters die per day. reckon it's just a thing kaarous said. i've no idea where that number's sourced. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4974250#post4974250


Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops Likes received: 27,526	#2995 - 2014-09-01 18:01:14 UTC 2 Crumplecorn wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: What that don't deserve I'd be fascinated to know what units 'deservedness' is measured in. Deservezas, of course. The harder you work, the more you deserve at the end of the day.


Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden Likes received: 601	#2996 - 2014-09-01 18:01:35 UTC baltec1 wrote: Still waiting on that link from my guys that shows 1.4 freighters die per day. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=369871&p=48 I live to serve....


Benny Ohu Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire Likes received: 4,565	#2997 - 2014-09-01 18:01:45 UTC 1 Veers Belvar wrote: I'm always happy to educate new players and help them understand the game. you are a new player. solstice is not.

Solecist Project

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#2998 - 2014-09-01 18:03:03 UTC

Benny Ohu wrote:

Veers Belvar wrote:

I'm always happy to educate new players and help them understand the game.

you are a new player. solstice is not.

Thank you.

(:
:)


Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden Likes received: 601	#2999 - 2014-09-01 18:04:49 UTC Benny Ohu wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: I'm always happy to educate new players and help them understand the game. you are a new player. solstice is not. But am I a "CODE alt?"

Solecist Project

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#3000 - 2014-09-01 18:05:18 UTC

Also ... does anyone else notice the aggressive tone in his replies towards me?

That's rather mean and I would appreciate if you stopped that.

Anyhow ... as I said ... I'll just repeat it ...

CODE is irrelevant in the big picture.

The only one making them look like an issue is the one who keeps mentioning
them and that's the one person who keeps spreading the most hatred in this thread.

Is it worth it going through all his posts to see if a ban is warranted?

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