EVE General Discussion

Or to put it another way, the simplest of precautions and the slightest hint of common sense would easily protect you from any of those situations.

If you chose not employ them, that's your problem... not the fault of the game or the other players.

Its a lesson that many seem unable to learn. 2/3 of our corps supers have been funded by high sec scams and ganking overstuffed haulers.

Grr, not whelping.

By the way, how's the blog doing?

Resorting to changing goal posts huh? That's what I thought. :)

Nice to know I worked and am now better than you. Blog is fine btw. Serves its purpose. I get eve mails thanking me for it! Started a new one for scope even.

EVE is also advertised as 'Real' (see C C P Manifest's bio for instance ;))

There was a time when I agreed that EVE was indeed very real. Mostly because it allowed for an ecology of gameplay styles, and social interaction.

I considered it a testament to the social character of the human, that in spite of what EVE allowed of mischief, the most predominant experience in EVE was still people helping each other and coorporate to create something together.

It was possible to play with a group of people, regardless of what kind of gameplay you preferred to engage in.

The environment allowed for it because it was better balanced between the styles of play. None was too dominant.

I believe the current environment leads to more isolated non-combat players than before.

EVE is not only a combat game, even if it's advertised as such.

But more than anything it would be great to have actual data to discuss these issues. I also asked C C P Manifest if they have the data. never got an answer. So we don't know whether they chose not to share or simply don't know themselves.

I agree with Ranger1 that EVE should provide A DANGEROUS AND CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT. The problem is that it is not.

Yet here you are complaining that you cannot run your non combat corp because its too dangerous.

Once again these issues are reduced to a question about a single pilot or a single corp. My interest is the combined result of the interaction between the different styles of play in the game.

I don't wish to complain. I'm sad to see the potential of the game being wasted as a whole. It is very difficult to run a non-combat corp in high sec of significant size. Not because it's dangerous, but because non-combat players find high sec combat boring.

A high sec war is the combat culture imposing on the non-combat. The combat culture impose on the non-combat on their own terms. They change the play for the non-combat to better fit the combat. I do not disaprove of this.

What is lacking is the non-combat culture being able to impose itself on the combat culture on the non-combat terms. Maybe it should be possible to exclude for a period, certain pilots and/or corporations that has become a menace to the industries of high sec? Or just make them legit targets for anyone in high sec for a period.

This could be used instead of a limit to the number of war decs. The more wars, the cheaper it becomes to use this tool. High sec needs mechanics to effectively police itself. The non-combat culture needs tools to bring the dangerous and challenging environment to the combat culture on it's own terms using non-combat tools.

It's not my fault. It is what it is.

We go through tens of thousands of ships and mods every month, Nullsec outstrips high sec on ship losses by millions. We are by far the biggest market in EVE to sell to. If it was viable we would be producing everything in our own space as it would provide easier logistics. Cost is the only thing that stops us from doing this.

What's wrong ISD? Can't handle the truth?