Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Good luck. I like GW2, but found it's attitude the exact opposite of EVE. I like EVE's cut-throat nature, but also enjoyed the "everyone is a team" mentality of GW2.

In an ideal world, I'd like to see a game where the NPC's would assign a high-sec mission runner the mission of "Hunt down player pirate X", but I can't see a way to do that in EVE without it being easily gamed. NPC's that actually react to player action would be awesome, if you make a MMO...

No one is saying, "Play the game my way!"

What the OP is frustrated about is that, at least in his opinion, it is too difficult for him and other PvP Enthusiasts to make a good income with the mechanics being the way they are. I will grant you that the rhetoric is less than constructive but before posting a knee-jerk reply, hesitate for just a moment and try to understand where he's coming from.

Side Note: Do devs even read this stuff? Seems to me they only post in threads that are completely irrelevant to the game.

So are you suggesting that encouraging a new player to join a corporation such as RvB or Brave Newbies is not sandbox?



It speaks to Possible Solution #2 in your OP and the idea that Salvage is good for new players so they are rewarded with assets (as opposed to pure isk which inflates prices)



I'm not sure how you even start going about doing that. From my experience, it is just a flashy yellow guy. You want to be flashy and yellow more often? You also want more ways to make yourself flashy and yellow? How would being flashy and yellow effect their game?



Asking for balanced PVE content in what way? The only PVE-centric possible solutions were enhanced AI and removing bounties. I am not seeing a connection between that and the balance you are speaking of.

As far as more avenues for PVP. If you're not asking for easier ganks what is you're asking for? What incentives for risk-taking? Understand that your average carebear will not take risks. How specifically do you get someone who won't take risks to just decide that he has enough incentive to take a risk?

Actually, this is exactly that experience as none of the organizations listed are CCP created or run. They exist as a result of player initiatives and effort.

Nice attempt at making ganking seem like adding content! Your post verges on creativity!
The only part I believe is the "sociopathic" reference, as the rest of the post reflects that ably.

Well done! May your shrink never make progress!

It is in fact a sandpox PvP experience, but it should not be the only one, and the same way a mission bear can bear by himself for hours on end and make a profit, there should be options for a solo PvPer to find his own way to make ends meet.

Also I'm more referring to the business of stealing loot from PvEers, as a soloable mini-PvP-profession that is highly accessible to new players, and keeps the PvEers from being 100% bubblewrapped (because 100% safety will eventually = 0% PvP opportunity).

PvEers seem to be under the impression that I'm the one inhibiting new players from joining the game. What they do not realize is their bounty system, combined with crying for nerfs to suspects, only end up removing a new PvPers options for making isk.

Sounds about right.

Except one group wants to **** in the other groups cereal. No one wants **** in their cereal! Too much **** in ones cereal makes them stop eating cereal.

they have made more in 1 release than eve has in its entire life "taking only into account subs" soo id rather be making billions and losing millions than possibly growing. everyone states growing yet i bet 25% of the "growth" is people getting more accounts which is not growth at all.

so again your point here i'm not understanding even with millions of subs lost.. id say the turnover rate is just as high if not higher in eve because of people like the op who make it their goal to ruin other players game but that is what makes eve great. and even with the millions lost the player base is still 10 times larger than eve.

and beyond that point i dotn know anyone that plays wow with more than 1 account.. i know eve players with over 10 couple with over 30 so i think saying eve is "growing" can be a bit of a reach

No one is ever safe. If OP wants to attack the L4 mission runner in high sec, he has the ability to do so.

The only thing preventing him from attacking someone running a mission in high security space is his own perceived inability to do so.

If he wishes, he could get the help of 20 friends to fit destroyers, have those 20 destroyers warp to his location, and obliterate him before concord arrives. Granted concord will arrive and obliterate those 20 destroyers, but then he could have his Frieghter friend jump in and take all of that loot to redistribute it.

Now if you'll tell a noob corporation that within the confines of the game, war declarations should not be changed to lessen the potential harm done to that noob corporation because there already exists mechanics in game for the noob corporation to "defend" itself and minimize their losses by playing "smart".

How can that same reasoning not be applied to the high sec pvper? He has the ability already. Maybe the suggestion I listed isn't necessarily perfect, but there are ways. It can be done. Since it can be done, what gives you the belief that your desired changes to current high sec mission running are necessary other than your refusing to take the steps that are already available to you?

You asking for changes only highlights your laziness, your ignorance, or your desire to remain anti-social by refusing to ask others for help.

I would recommend going to the Adults R' Us store and purchasing a couple years worth of maturity. Maybe search the EVE skill "not a baby" and train it up to level 5.