Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Actually, some of the highest income players make their isk from taking advantage of isk transfers rather than isk injection. And if your plan of transferring bounties to tradable loot actually has any measure of success, it will mean increasing the number of trades greatly creating more room for others to prosper just from that activity alone.

If CCP has engineered an environment where someone can play the game as a PvEr, fighting only NPCs, how is that playing the game wrong?

It's a perfectly legitimate play style. Is it single player? No, not even close because they are buying weapons, ships, ammunition which has an impact on the economy.

Obviously the break down with you is you're applying your thought process onto others. You feel that since you do not wish to play the game in a fashion centered around PvE, that anyone who does so is wrong. This is your ignorance, a highlight of your inability to understand what EVE offers and that some people will choose to play differently than you.

Not just no, but 'hell no' Sir.

Have a great day.

YK

A) Do not give them the LE in the first place

B) Literally everyone in the game can shoot at a suspect, just bring friends

C) In reguards to suicide ganking. Do not fly a ship fit with modules worth roughly 2x the amount of isk it would take to blow you up (as you dont need an x-type shield booster to run missions).

Natural Beer, can I call you Natty Light? Benny Ohu has often suggested that PvE ships should be able to fit for PvP without too much impact on their PvE efficiency. I assume by your post that this is something you would agree with. Would I be accurate?

0.8 space assuming pre-pulled concord, lets assume 15 second response time. If the catalysts neut the paladin prior to the nado's firing, concord will already be on grid and they'll only get one shot off each. I assume you mean that they had no buffer and a bunch of active hardeners and the "couple" of tornados was actually more than a couple? I call bullshit at least on the way you described it. Even if you aren't exaggerating and a paladin with less than 24K ehp passive buffer against its weakest resist could get up to 250K ehp by turning modules on, that's still a 5v1 fight expending at least 250 million isk. Props to the gankers for organizing that.

I've seen a 32 person gank fleet of catalsyts and talos's fail a gank on a golem (was either a 0,5 or 0.6 system with around 10 concord groups pre-pulled). I really don't think any battleship should be able to tank 12,000 dps for 20 seconds.


There are plenty of things you can do about it. Fit some passive buffer, use mwd+cloak travel fits, use d-scan when missioning, keep safety set to green. Shoot white wrecks when people invade your mission. CCP was even nice enough to make it so you can have your drones on aggressive again!

As for the suspect thing, that's why safety exists.

Not going to argue this, although I'm a former WoW player who made a very conscious decision and left a great community for good in order to join EVE. WoW is just a game in ruins. Leaving those ingame friends behind was the hard part. But discussing that would derail the thread and not lead to anything constructive here.

But multiboxing was not that uncommon in WoW. Mostly in battlegrounds and often shamans. Especially elemental shamans were quite popular among multiboxers. People usually fielded groups of 4-6.

The person who told me that "literally hundreds" of sandbox MMOs have died for every themepark MMO that has died doesn't get to tell anyone to use a calculator.

I showed you how that was clearly true and you then proceeded to ignore the entire post.

Where is the ISK going to come from if not from bounties?