EVE General Discussion

They're part of the dynamic of what makes null what it is.

They are part of the problem. New corps and alliances arn't going to try to take systems off us if they are not worth it.

Even if you thought they were the sov system isn't going to allow them to do so. Between experience, numbers, force projection, and material prep, it's just not going to happen. Also, again, the issue isn't mission, it's anoms being the worst PvE in game.

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The trollish posts in question are the same posts IZ refered to as "evidence" when it comes to "100m per hour is pathetic"

The few anoms that are gnerally worth the trouble are among the best pve activities in the game. They give liquid isk, can be made to respawn with the upgrade system making them farmable, can spawn faction npc battleships that occasionally have nice things, can escalate to DED complexes and unile missions they never force you to dock or change systems or switch fits. Anoms are pretty much superior to missions in every way.

Which doesn't matter one flipping bit when you can do this in the automated safety of high sec and npc corps.

High sec being too god for isk making dampens the "greed factor" that creates a kind of preassure for groups of pve players (like my original corp) to find ways to make it out to null to get the good stuff. Rather than becoming better militarily or diplomatically (or stealthily, you don't see very many ninja pve corps), they simply rent space from groups who are strong but who don't need the space.

Before the anom nerf (when every system could have 2 sanctums and 2 havens) renting was less attractive because no system could really support more than 3 dedicated ratters, CCPs change had some bad unintended consequenses. It's not all "high secs" fault, but high sec is a component part of why EVE outside of high sec is the way it is.

Such tactics may be applicable for an experienced group with deep pockets, a lot of patience and superior skill. The issue is that it necessitates that large powerblocks can be outlasted and outmaneuvered by smaller groups over a long period. We all have the jokes about how bad goons are or the CFC is, but I don't have faith that in this defenders initiative of a sov system that you lack the capacity to wreak havoc on whatever scale of warfare you desire.

Edit: This of course doesn't discount diplomacy, though diplomatic relations tend to strengthen fighting capacities over time, coalitions being a prime example, thus making it harder still for forceful entry into null.

I seem to remember a long period of time where we campaigned for nerfs that would directly hurt our income stream. Unbiased indeed.

You need to look further than just one or two layers guys. If xyz seems bad, then ask why it is the way it is. Find the answer and then repeat the question. Keep digging and digging until you arrive at the core problems. Only when you identify those can you hope to start fixing things.

Sometimes changing something is not the final solution for it. But it might allow the chance to change something else. You keep circling around and end up back at the original change. Except now due to the other changes, you can make another adjustment that was not possible before.

The problems we face are complex. Don't expect the solutions to not be just as complex.

Thats tests thing.

Not to mention a huge pain in the ass chasing them across three regions which may or may not be blue. Not everyone has a spare carrier to ninja anomaly with.