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Didn't know so many Nyx SCs blowing up nowadays huh? Or should that be Onyx?
Edit: or are those numbers final blows?

yep

from abadon to maelstrom :D
as u need only half the ships to kill something in an alpha strike

basic math mate basic math

So, following your logic, people trained for Maelstroms, Abaddons and Drakes for some random reason that had nothing to do with their being more useful/powerful/successful and it was pure coincidence that they just turned out to be so wonderfully good? People train for them because they're the best, because if they train gallente/hybrid equivalents then they don't get into fleets. Your logic isn't even circular, it just springs from nowhere on a passing lack of thought !

As for recons, the gallente recons are fine if you want to use warp disruptors/scramblers, but the sensor dampeners continue to linger in the realm of almost pointless compared to their ecm counterparts.

And while we're at it I might as well get the full set and also point out, yet again, that information warfare links are utterly abysmal and should be replaced with something people could actually make use of, or at the very least the bonuses should be reviewed. Even the sensor integrity link on an Eos with a mindlink gives a bonus that scrapes a pathetic percentage of the effectiveness of the eccm mods, whilst a passive armour/shield resist link will give bonuses close to or exceeding their BEST faction mods. And don't even get me started on skirmish mods and their bonuses ! Come on CCP, it's another thing that has been broken for years, in the light of your current aim of fixing broken content - when will this be looked at !

i would like to see this fit

Not sure I agree on this. I'd also venture to say the point is moot. I personally am hoping CCP approaches this "balancing" problem two-fold: firstly, as a means to make hybrids more effective when compared to its counterparts, but more importantly, giving hybrids a desirable feature which will increase its popularity AND its effectiveness at the same time.

You could argue blasters already have a "desirable feature" as they have the highest dps in the game. However, the truth of the matter is, range is so pathetically short and the hybrid platforms which use these turrets are not fast enough to make any real use of it. In addition to this, blasters' claim to the dps crown is THE ONLY desirable trait. There is nothing else. Rails don't have a single characteristic worth mentioning.

Whether or not you choose to correlate hybrid shortcomings to its lack of pvp popularity is your choice. You could also take a look at the market and explain to me why an Astarte is significantly cheaper than a Sleipnir, and whatever explanation you want to give, it's your choice.

In any case, I don't think it's a stretch to say:

-effective turrets get used in pvp, period
-effective ships get used in pvp, period
-players WILL figure out how to use effective items IF they have desirable traits (plural)

Argue cause and effect all you want, but such a debate is meaningless when you're missing both the cause (effectiveness) and effect (popularity). More to the point, the state of hybrids and hybrid platorms are missing both of these, and I do not think this is debatable. I think the market clearly shows this, as does the eve-kill.net top 20 stats page.

Create new weapon and then? Leave the existing broken? Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

I could live with that, really. But then again, I'm a caldari Pilot who has Gallente hybrid training and it makes perfect sense in the EVE universe, since they share a homeworld (a reason for having shared weapon systems).

So it would be something like this?

Blasters-Short range-ownage-station games ect.
?????- Medium range-good damage projection,Damage in between blasters and rails-Main fleet weapon?
Rails- Long range-Fleet Sniper

of topic yay
I love how in the hybrid weapon thread people are talking about exploding ships that do damage in a 15 km radius. This would be epic at making blaster boats way more viable.

Oh wait most blaster boats will be within this range when they kill stuff..... lol

Oh and could you imagine all the ships self destructing on the Jita undock. CCP you have to implement this freekin awesome well thoughtout idea.............

anyone knows the new stats for null ammo following the changes in the 1.1 patch ?