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High Sec Income vs Null Sec Income - the reality

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#621 - 2013-10-24 13:42:45 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
...
I will say this. If you continue to make personal attacks against me I will report every one of them.


Translation: Everyone out of the pool, I'm drowning!






Stop making me laugh, EVE is serious business!
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#622 - 2013-10-24 13:44:30 UTC
We'll see if the mods agree.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#623 - 2013-10-24 13:45:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
...
I will say this. If you continue to make personal attacks against me I will report every one of them.


Translation: Everyone out of the pool, I'm drowning!






I was considering, when Infinity first wrote that, of saying something to the effect of:

"Ah, telling. The last refuge of the emotional thinker."

You put it better though, have a like.

Oh, and IB4L.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#624 - 2013-10-24 13:48:17 UTC
The mob mentality is strong in this forum.. Sad..
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#625 - 2013-10-24 13:49:40 UTC
Tron 3K wrote:
The mob mentality is strong in this forum.. Sad..


I prefer to think of it as the sharks smell blood.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#626 - 2013-10-24 13:54:10 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tron 3K wrote:
The mob mentality is strong in this forum.. Sad..


I prefer to think of it as the sharks smell blood.

I don't think so. I prefer to think of it as grown adults acting like little children. There are rules for posting on the forums. I will put with your childish behavior for a little while but if you continue to flout the rules then of course I'll report that to the moderators.

There is nothing that you have said, nor could say, that would upset me.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#627 - 2013-10-24 14:01:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
***retracted***

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#628 - 2013-10-24 14:14:49 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dosnix
*snip*

Personal attack fixed
ISD Dosnix

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#629 - 2013-10-24 14:17:11 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tron 3K wrote:
The mob mentality is strong in this forum.. Sad..


I prefer to think of it as the sharks smell blood.

I don't think so. I prefer to think of it as grown adults acting like little children. There are rules for posting on the forums. I will put with your childish behavior for a little while but if you continue to flout the rules then of course I'll report that to the moderators.

There is nothing that you have said, nor could say, that would upset me.


Heh, here's the part where I say, jokingly of course, "Reported for calling people "little children", as that is a personal attack".

You really are such a hypocrite.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#630 - 2013-10-24 14:35:38 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tron 3K wrote:
The mob mentality is strong in this forum.. Sad..


I prefer to think of it as the sharks smell blood.

I don't think so. I prefer to think of it as grown adults acting like little children. There are rules for posting on the forums. I will put with your childish behavior for a little while but if you continue to flout the rules then of course I'll report that to the moderators.

There is nothing that you have said, nor could say, that would upset me.


Thirty odd pages of you whining about people being mean to you says otherwise delusion boy, perhaps if you werent quite so patheticly stupid you wouldnt be having these issues.

See, thats a personal attack, compare it to what has been said previously to see how wrong you are.

Reported.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#631 - 2013-10-24 14:40:00 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Reported.


Counter-reported

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#632 - 2013-10-24 14:42:34 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Reported.


Counter-reported

You can only report breaches of forum rules unfortunately.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Shiva Darksun
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#633 - 2013-10-24 14:44:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Shiva Darksun
This petty argument dwarfs each one of you, poisons the community and adds no value.
Could we please stick to the thread subject? It was interesting for a while, at least to me, because I'm coming back to EvE after years of being away, on a brand new character, and I'd really like to be informed on how to properly do things.

If someone is willing to make a guide, please let them do so, even if there's 200 previous guides already. It means there's competition and there's an incentive to make a good, up-to-date guide which would hopefully be better than the rest.

If someone is wrong and you know better, please collaborate, tell them why they're wrong and what's to be done better, rather than attacking a person and trying to cover their posts with faeces. That's monkey-style poo-flinging and you probably don't want to be in that category. Hopefully.

Think of the children :)
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#634 - 2013-10-24 14:45:25 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

You can only report breaches of forum rules unfortunately.


Ill report what I damn well please

And its none of your business

So keap

Your beak

Out of my biz

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#635 - 2013-10-24 14:47:59 UTC
Quote:
If someone is wrong and you know better, please collaborate, tell them why they're wrong and what's to be done better


People did already. It wasn't well recieved.

I'll have a go at it again.

Why it's wrong? Because Infinity doctored the data.

What's to be done better? Well, one of two things. Either stop doctoring the data or stop posting threads like this.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#636 - 2013-10-24 14:48:00 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

You can only report breaches of forum rules unfortunately.


Ill report what I damn well please

And its none of your business

So keap

Your beak

Out of my biz

You'll get in trouble for reporting nothing. Its against the rules.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#637 - 2013-10-24 14:51:04 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
If someone is wrong and you know better, please collaborate, tell them why they're wrong and what's to be done better


People did already. It wasn't well recieved.

I'll have a go at it again.

Why it's wrong? Because Infinity doctored the data.

What's to be done better? Well, one of two things. Either stop doctoring the data or stop posting threads like this.

Yes, apparently I made a perfect couple of fake screenshots, hacked the server to adjust my alts and my own contract history and hacked some guys account to post fake loot he got from stealing my anom.

There are also rumours I'm a Yeti...

Too much tinfoil there Kaarous

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#638 - 2013-10-24 14:55:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Infinity Ziona wrote:

You'll get in trouble for reporting nothing. Its against the rules.



Where I am there are no rulez


Homer: [to Lisa and Bart] Kids, let me tell you about another so-called wicked guy. He had long hair, and some wild ideas, and he didn't always do what other people thought was right. And that man's name was...
[thinks]
Homer: I forget. But the point is...
[thinks]
Homer: I forget that, too.
[to Marge]
Homer: Marge, you know who I'm talking about! He used to drive that blue car.


ANYWAY you're wrong about CFC.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Shiva Darksun
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#639 - 2013-10-24 15:00:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Shiva Darksun
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Why it's wrong? Because Infinity doctored the data.

What's to be done better? Well, one of two things. Either stop doctoring the data or stop posting threads like this.


Hence the reason for creating a guide where doctored data would float up.
Alternatively, I'd like to see un-doctored data.
Just so you know, I never believed you can make 1 billion an hour, or even 1 billion a day (LE: adding "consistently"), well, maybe unless someone's really, really good, resides in a particularly empty, safe and profitable system and is a bit lucky too. And plays for like 12 hours a day. But I believed there's plenty of untapped sites in nullsec, at least judging from the map reports showing the amounts of jumps in-out of a particular system.

Now, I surely am not up-to-date with all that's changed in EVE since I left, but I'm pretty sure that the whole thread can be roughly summarized as follows:

- nullsec income through plexing is generating a much higher yield/hour than hi-sec missioning;
- hi-sec missioning is much, much safer than nullsec plexing, where you can have long downtimes due to nasties roaming around.

So then again, there are other factors than just simply yield/hour, because that's variable in nullsec. Someone's experience might be wildly different from soneone else's experience.

What I'd be interested to know is whether a single account character would be able to spend some time in nullsec in a ship which is not a capital ship, as a neutral, and do belt ratting and lower complexes alone for a while (weeks, months), for the sole purpose of killing rats, not "work for PLEX".
Gustaf en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#640 - 2013-10-24 15:18:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Gustaf en Gravonere
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
...
I will say this. If you continue to make personal attacks against me I will report every one of them.


Translation: Everyone out of the pool, I'm drowning!







+1 to meltdown

you're about to run short on meltdown core stabilizers and go berserk. Also I am glad to have witnessed such an epic meltdown so soon after joining this game. I have a feeling there will be many more trolls to entertain my wits for time to come. Thanks, Eve!

Also, if you think CCP, who tolerates large scale scams, corp takeovers, camping, griefing, pirating is going to give a rat's ass about a bunch of people being mean to you on a forum and calling you a liar (which, you undoubtedly are), then it's clear that in all your years as an eve pilot you've learned basically nothing. Congratulations on a waste of oxygen that you are. People join this game to exist in a universe with little to no rules, not to be censored down to PG rating in a forum. And if you've noticed, nobody has used profanity, so I'm not sure exactly what you plan to report.