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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#601 - 2013-10-24 12:48:52 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

I think you'll be surprised at who goes to at least try SC...


Unlike many, I am not scared at all. Let em come!

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#602 - 2013-10-24 12:49:06 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:

You think you're the 1st one to ninja rat/plex in EVE that people need a new guide for it? lulz.. A couple hundred people have already beat you to it.

The people that don't take risks aren't going to ninja anything for any reason. The people inclined to ninja already (explorers) are either already doing it of have done it and are doing something else.

...

While it's amusing to see someone who speaks like a rookie think they discovered some pro new way to do things (look at me y'all, I'm the 1st to bookmark a safespot!!!), You're still not trying to understand the whys and wherefores of the situation or why your base beliefs are wrong.


Now you are really sounding like an .... ehm... unkind person!


The truth hurts, stings and sometimes itches Twisted
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#603 - 2013-10-24 12:53:58 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Yeah I'll do what I like. Take your oversized ego and your silly hater attitude somewhere else.

And if your such a "Pro" why did I have to tell you how to get a structure in a complex to retarget something else so it'd stop repping armor?...


Standard reply from someone who thinks they know more than they do. Are you sure you're not actually my 16 year old daughter just trying to troll daddy.

My oversized ego? Am i the one who invaded sov space single handedly then posted about it. Am i the one posting about "gee, everyone is doing it wrong, I'm a great ninja ratter. Am i the one posting in the features and ideas section lecturing professional game makers about making video games?

Go ahead, use the search function, show everyone here where I started a thread where I proclaimed that I was awesome and everyone else sucked lol. Paris Hilton is less of an attention ***** than you are lol.

What you just did was call a kettle black, and among other things that's racist!

And the last part is epic. You know you're using an exploit when you get an overseer to switch targets, right?

You're almost seem, jealous of me?

It hasn't been declared an exploit so I don't think that's true. If that was the case, every time somebody warped out of a complex on the overseer while their friends remain behind they'd be exploiting.

If it wasn't supposed to work that way it wouldn't work that way.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#604 - 2013-10-24 12:57:54 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

You're almost seem, jealous of me?


In what sick mind does anything I post look like jealousy? I'm not the one "grr-gooining" in that other thread lol, that would be you.

No, i'm just trying to help, because you're so clueless that i fear you might get up from the computer and put your hand on a hot stove or something. Think of the children!

Quote:

It hasn't been declared an exploit so I don't think that's true. If that was the case, every time somebody warped out of a complex on the overseer while their friends remain behind they'd be exploiting.

If it wasn't supposed to work that way it wouldn't work that way.
So flying 200 km is the same as warping out. Yea, something about that is "warped", but it's not the spaceship lol. I'd be careful to what you admit to on a forum CCP owns.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#605 - 2013-10-24 13:01:20 UTC
Quote:
If it wasn't supposed to work that way it wouldn't work that way.


I could say the same about sov timers and not allowing neutrals to dock/refit. But then, that'd be a personal attack or something like that, right?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#606 - 2013-10-24 13:03:12 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
If it wasn't supposed to work that way it wouldn't work that way.


I could say the same about sov timers and not allowing neutrals to dock/refit. But then, that'd be a personal attack or something like that, right?



But but but that's different *sputters like Infinity*.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#607 - 2013-10-24 13:07:52 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
If it wasn't supposed to work that way it wouldn't work that way.


I could say the same about sov timers and not allowing neutrals to dock/refit. But then, that'd be a personal attack or something like that, right?



But but but that's different *sputters like Infinity*.


And if were to ask why that's different? I suppose the answer would be some misguided convolution that essentially boils down to "because it effects me and I say it's different".

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#608 - 2013-10-24 13:09:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Jenn aSide wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

You're almost seem, jealous of me?


In what sick mind does anything I post look like jealousy? I'm not the one "grr-gooining" in that other thread lol, that would be you.

No, i'm just trying to help, because you're so clueless that i fear you might get up from the computer and put your hand on a hot stove or something. Think of the children!

Quote:

It hasn't been declared an exploit so I don't think that's true. If that was the case, every time somebody warped out of a complex on the overseer while their friends remain behind they'd be exploiting.

If it wasn't supposed to work that way it wouldn't work that way.
So flying 200 km is the same as warping out. Yea, something about that is "warped", but it's not the spaceship lol. I'd be careful to what you admit to on a forum CCP owns.

It looks like jealousy because almost every one of your posts is a personal attack against me as a person. You don't know me as a person at all. Do you see how I write to you, I reply to you based on the content of your posts, not on you as a person. I don't have any ill feelings, nor positive feelings towards you as another person. I'm a balanced person.

You on the other hand are constantly referring to my personality and its alleged flaws, with snide remarks and disrespectful comments. This means you have an emotional connection with me for whatever reason. I find it amusing but also very odd.

In the previous post you expressed anger towards me writing a guide, you appear to be offended that I would write one because you feel that you're more qualified as a ninja plexer or something, you referred to yourself as a 'Pro' and me as a 'newb' or some such.

So I'm assuming that you're jealous that I have more success than you do or you're simply jealous that I would "dare" to write a guide because you're in your own mind, much better then me?

Guess what... bad luck :)

As for the overseer - I got that information from the Goonwiki on doing the repping Overseers and as per CCP's rules, if it has not been declared an exploit it is not one unless its an obvious exploit such as duplicating items etc.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#609 - 2013-10-24 13:14:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
If it wasn't supposed to work that way it wouldn't work that way.


I could say the same about sov timers and not allowing neutrals to dock/refit. But then, that'd be a personal attack or something like that, right?


No. A personal attack is an attack against the character of the person posting, not on the contents of their post.

If I was to say "Kaldrous your idea is stupid" this is not a personal attack.

If I was to say, as you did quite a few times to me "Infinity you're stupid" this is a personal attack and prohibited on the forums afaik.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#610 - 2013-10-24 13:15:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
Infinity Ziona wrote:

It looks like jealousy because almost every one of your posts is a personal attack against me as a person. You don't know me as a person at all. Do you see how I write to you, I reply to you based on the content of your posts, not on you as a person. I don't have any ill feelings, nor positive feelings towards you as another person. I'm a balanced person.

You on the other hand are constantly referring to my personality and its alleged, with snide remarks and disrespectful comments. This means you have an emotional connection with me for whatever reason. I find it amusing but also very odd.

In the previous post you expressed anger towards me writing a guide, you appear to be offended that I would write one because you feel that you're more qualified as a ninja plexer or something, you referred to yourself as a 'Pro' and me as a 'newb' or some such.

So I'm assuming that you're jealous that I have more success than you do or you're simply jealous that I would "dare" to write a guide because you're in you're own mind, much better then me?

Guess what... bad luck :)


It's not a personal attack to tell you that you're wrong, which you are. It's not a personal attack to tell you that the reason you are so wrong appears to be because you are laboring under a massive delusion, which, again, you are. And it's not a personal attack to tell you that any evidence you claim to have is clearly, obviously stacked in favor of your argument, by you. (btw, that is called confirmation bias, something you have in spades as far as I can tell)

It is, however, projection to assign an emotional motive where none exists. It's pretty much the only way an emotional "thinker" (because by definition emotions are not rational thought) can even make the attempt to relate to logical opposition, though, so it's not surprising that you keep going this route. In your own mind, you can do no wrong and so anyone disagreeing with you must have something wrong with them. That, to put a term to it, is narcissism.

And if you're a balanced person I'll eat my old Army boots, by the way.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#611 - 2013-10-24 13:20:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

It looks like jealousy because almost every one of your posts is a personal attack against me as a person. You don't know me as a person at all. Do you see how I write to you, I reply to you based on the content of your posts, not on you as a person. I don't have any ill feelings, nor positive feelings towards you as another person. I'm a balanced person.

You on the other hand are constantly referring to my personality and its alleged, with snide remarks and disrespectful comments. This means you have an emotional connection with me for whatever reason. I find it amusing but also very odd.

In the previous post you expressed anger towards me writing a guide, you appear to be offended that I would write one because you feel that you're more qualified as a ninja plexer or something, you referred to yourself as a 'Pro' and me as a 'newb' or some such.

So I'm assuming that you're jealous that I have more success than you do or you're simply jealous that I would "dare" to write a guide because you're in you're own mind, much better then me?

Guess what... bad luck :)


It's not a personal attack to tell you that you're wrong, which you are. It's not a personal attack to tell you that the reason you are so wrong appears to be because you are laboring under a massive delusion, which, again, you are. And it's not a personal attack to tell you that any evidence you claim to have is clearly, obviously stacked in favor of your argument, by you. (btw, that is called confirmation bias, something you have in spades as far as I can tell)

It is, however, projection to assign an emotional motive where none exists. It's pretty much the only way an emotional "thinker" (because by definition emotions are not rational thought) can even make the attempt to relate to logical opposition, though, so it's not surprising that you keep going this route. In your own mind, you can do no wrong and so anyone disagreeing with you must have something wrong with them. That, to put a term to it, is narcissism.

And if you're a balanced person I'll eat my old Army boots, by the way.

It's not a personal attack to tell me that I'm wrong. Just poor posting.

It is a personal attack to refer to me as deluded.

It is a personal attack to call someone a narcissist.

It is a personal attack to make negative comments on my personality.

It is a personal attack to say that I am unbalanced.

If you'd like to continue with your personal attacks I'll just refer each one to moderation from now on if you like? Or you can be a grown up and discuss the topics and not attack people personally?

What would you prefer Karas?

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#612 - 2013-10-24 13:25:32 UTC
You forgot accusing you of doctoring your evidence. Is that a personal attack in Infinity-land, or not?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#613 - 2013-10-24 13:28:19 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

It looks like jealousy because almost every one of your posts is a personal attack against me as a person. You don't know me as a person at all. Do you see how I write to you, I reply to you based on the content of your posts, not on you as a person. I don't have any ill feelings, nor positive feelings towards you as another person. I'm a balanced person.

You on the other hand are constantly referring to my personality and its alleged, with snide remarks and disrespectful comments. This means you have an emotional connection with me for whatever reason. I find it amusing but also very odd.

In the previous post you expressed anger towards me writing a guide, you appear to be offended that I would write one because you feel that you're more qualified as a ninja plexer or something, you referred to yourself as a 'Pro' and me as a 'newb' or some such.

So I'm assuming that you're jealous that I have more success than you do or you're simply jealous that I would "dare" to write a guide because you're in you're own mind, much better then me?

Guess what... bad luck :)


It's not a personal attack to tell you that you're wrong, which you are. It's not a personal attack to tell you that the reason you are so wrong appears to be because you are laboring under a massive delusion, which, again, you are. And it's not a personal attack to tell you that any evidence you claim to have is clearly, obviously stacked in favor of your argument, by you. (btw, that is called confirmation bias, something you have in spades as far as I can tell)

It is, however, projection to assign an emotional motive where none exists. It's pretty much the only way an emotional "thinker" (because by definition emotions are not rational thought) can even make the attempt to relate to logical opposition, though, so it's not surprising that you keep going this route. In your own mind, you can do no wrong and so anyone disagreeing with you must have something wrong with them. That, to put a term to it, is narcissism.

And if you're a balanced person I'll eat my old Army boots, by the way.

It's not a personal attack to tell me that I'm wrong. Just poor posting.

It is a personal attack to refer to me as deluded.

It is a personal attack to call someone a narcissist.

It is a personal attack to make negative comments on my personality.

It is a personal attack to say that I am unbalanced.

If you'd like to continue with your personal attacks I'll just refer each one to moderation from now on if you like? Or you can be a grown up and discuss the topics and not attack people personally?

What would you prefer Karas?


It's not a personal attack if it's true lol.

Kaarous (see, i can spell it right, thanks to copy/paste) main point is what I bolded. You're simply wrong about a lot of things because you ignore everything that doesn't fit. That's not my fault, and YOU have control of our interactions. don't be measurably wrong, don't get disagreed with on an open form, simple equation.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#614 - 2013-10-24 13:28:19 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You forgot accusing you of doctoring your evidence. Is that a personal attack in Infinity-land, or not?

Nope because its not an attack on me as a person. Are you really having trouble distinguishing between attacking a subject and attacking a person?

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#615 - 2013-10-24 13:29:40 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You forgot accusing you of doctoring your evidence. Is that a personal attack in Infinity-land, or not?

Nope because its not an attack on me as a person. Are you really having trouble distinguishing between attacking a subject and attacking a person?


Ok. You doctored your evidence. That makes you a liar.

And now we're having fun, aren't we.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#616 - 2013-10-24 13:30:37 UTC
I hate it when mummy and daddy fight

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#617 - 2013-10-24 13:36:10 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You forgot accusing you of doctoring your evidence. Is that a personal attack in Infinity-land, or not?

Nope because its not an attack on me as a person. Are you really having trouble distinguishing between attacking a subject and attacking a person?


As an old instructor of mine once said, "son, you ain't seen it get personal yet".

While it's usually fun to see this kind of melt down, it's not the intended purpose of my replies to you. My intent is simply to show you the root of your errors, because you seem outwardly smart but for some can't seem to overcome a deeply selfish perspective.

It's one thing when the knuckle-draggers and people scared crappless in a game (so they hide in high sec and let forum sniping be the boldest thing they can do) get butt hurt, but you're one who actually doesn't mind PLAYING EVE (like invading tribe space or ninja ratting). It's mystifying to see you come to such, well, crazy conclusions about things and then start whole threads based on those misconceptions.

I'll remind you, YOU started this thread. If you don't like the criticism of your misconcptions (including WHY you have those misconceptions), stop creating ridiculous discussion threads.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#618 - 2013-10-24 13:39:37 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You forgot accusing you of doctoring your evidence. Is that a personal attack in Infinity-land, or not?

Nope because its not an attack on me as a person. Are you really having trouble distinguishing between attacking a subject and attacking a person?


As an old instructor of mine once said, "son, you ain't seen it get personal yet".

While it's usually fun to see this kind of melt down, it's not the intended purpose of my replies to you. My intent is simply to show you the root of your errors, because you seem outwardly smart but for some can't seem to overcome a deeply selfish perspective.

It's one thing when the knuckle-draggers and people scared crappless in a game (so they hide in high sec and let forum sniping be the boldest thing they can do) get butt hurt, but you're one who actually doesn't mind PLAYING EVE (like invading tribe space or ninja ratting). It's mystifying to see you come to such, well, crazy conclusions about things and then start whole threads based on those misconceptions.

I'll remind you, YOU started this thread. If you don't like the criticism of your misconcptions (including WHY you have those misconceptions), stop creating ridiculous discussion threads.

Its not a meltdown. I'm simply pointing out you're personally attacking me. If you like I could refer you to the rules of the forums regarding personal attacks? Do you want to read them?

I will say this. If you continue to make personal attacks against me I will report every one of them.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#619 - 2013-10-24 13:40:27 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dosnix
Off topic post deleted
ISD Dosnix
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#620 - 2013-10-24 13:42:02 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
...
I will say this. If you continue to make personal attacks against me I will report every one of them.


Translation: Everyone out of the pool, I'm drowning!




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