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High Sec Income vs Null Sec Income - the reality

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#201 - 2013-10-16 20:58:26 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Nullsec is sold on a greater carebearism.


Ha, I nominate this as quote of the thread. It is a generalisation just as true as 'all highsec players are risk-averse carebears'.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#202 - 2013-10-16 21:10:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Jenn aSide wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:



I was expecting a tinfoil comment.

You delivered.


Seriously though, you have a major persecution complex going here.



Guess what.

What you just posted, is another attack mode. I'm starting to think you all work from the same list.

I'm a highly experienced forum moderator and troll since the mid 1990s. There's a pattern to just about everything, even the attacks.


When you start seeing patterns where not exist, It just means you are developing a Beautiful mind lol.

Does EVE have a public mental health channel? Between this and other people posting about how losing in game assets are causing them real life issues, I'm thinking it might be time for one........



Gaslighting is another known tactic. Nice try.

Claims of dissenters having mental issues is a known old Soviet tactic.

You need a better playbook.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#203 - 2013-10-16 21:51:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
45 minutes,just finished it - Phat Lewtz ---- My Cargo and Tags

Oh yeah... PS don't bother trying to kill me cause I'm AFK to go to work :)

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#204 - 2013-10-17 00:19:15 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
that the reason why goons never do PvP, they just grind for ISK, I see that **** each day

thats the reason why i started shooting their loot bombing those gurista wrecks and killing their noctis

I free them from this greed



Hey smart guy

http://eve-kill.net/?a=top20

You are looking in the wrong place (per usual)
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#205 - 2013-10-17 00:22:10 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
45 minutes,just finished it - Phat Lewtz ---- My Cargo and Tags

Oh yeah... PS don't bother trying to kill me cause I'm AFK to go to work :)



In 7RM-N0 at last report. Evil
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#206 - 2013-10-17 00:35:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Onictus wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
45 minutes,just finished it - Phat Lewtz ---- My Cargo and Tags

Oh yeah... PS don't bother trying to kill me cause I'm AFK to go to work :)



In 7RM-N0 at last report. Evil

Yeah I think you Goon peeps are a little overextended. Barely a Goon around to keep the riff raff out. Really, why would anyone pay to rent your space when they can just zip around using it for free.... meanwhile you guys pay the sov bills

Doesn't seem 'fair'.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#207 - 2013-10-17 01:14:52 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
45 minutes,just finished it - Phat Lewtz ---- My Cargo and Tags

Oh yeah... PS don't bother trying to kill me cause I'm AFK to go to work :)



In 7RM-N0 at last report. Evil

Yeah I think you Goon peeps are a little overextended. Barely a Goon around to keep the riff raff out. Really, why would anyone pay to rent your space when they can just zip around using it for free.... meanwhile you guys pay the sov bills

Doesn't seem 'fair'.



Renters are paying those bills.
Freakdevil
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#208 - 2013-10-17 01:34:04 UTC
Klandi wrote:
I would like to wade in here with the comment that you are looking at just one aspect of making money in Eve - effectively ratting.

As I am an industrialist - this thread helps me how?



It doesn't. This thread is just an epeen display. OP is a ninja ratter. Good for him I guess. Zzzzzzz
Black Canary Jnr
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#209 - 2013-10-17 01:40:01 UTC
You can make more isk in deep null but it definitely doesn't make sense to pve in providence any more. Less ISK and much greater risk than hi-sec.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#210 - 2013-10-17 01:55:07 UTC
Freakdevil wrote:
Klandi wrote:
I would like to wade in here with the comment that you are looking at just one aspect of making money in Eve - effectively ratting.

As I am an industrialist - this thread helps me how?



It doesn't. This thread is just an epeen display. OP is a ninja ratter. Good for him I guess. Zzzzzzz


No its not. If you have been following the 6 month argument I have been having with certain people on this forum you'd know that I have previously proposed that it was possible to make 500 million per hour in null. I was called an idiot, liar and exaggerator.

I was asked to provide proof so I have provided proof that its not only possible, but that you can actually make a lot more than 500 million per hour.

Don't assume you know the motivations of complete strangers.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#211 - 2013-10-17 01:58:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Anomaly One
edit: deleted because who gives a **** , thanks though I really enjoyed OP post for talking about this subject.

Quote:
Gaslighting


haha, people used it all the time, I ******* hate that tactic man like if you were truly tired when something happened they make you question your own deeds especially if you're an insomniac and hallucinating, makes you think you're insane really it should be classed as mental abuse if it isn't and anyone using it irl locked up it's so bad..

just gonna ask is there any way to combat it ?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#212 - 2013-10-17 02:15:42 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Suvetar
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Freakdevil wrote:
Klandi wrote:
I would like to wade in here with the comment that you are looking at just one aspect of making money in Eve - effectively ratting.

As I am an industrialist - this thread helps me how?



It doesn't. This thread is just an epeen display. OP is a ninja ratter. Good for him I guess. Zzzzzzz


No its not. If you have been following the 6 month argument I have been having with certain people on this forum you'd know that I have previously proposed that it was possible to make 500 million per hour in null. I was called an idiot, liar and exaggerator.

I was asked to provide proof so I have provided proof that its not only possible, but that you can actually make a lot more than 500 million per hour.

Don't assume you know the motivations of complete strangers.


*snipped flaming* - ISD Suvetar

You have expressly made certain that there is no actual proof of your timeframes in question. All you have done is cherrypicked a few good examples and attempted to prop them up as the entirety of the data. Your "proof" thus far amounts to little more than blurred pictures of Bigfoot as far as it's use as actual data is concerned. To go to lengths like this just to try and "prove" that you do have a clue what you are talking about is pretty crazy, gotta say.

Furthermore, the position has always been, that the single player upper bounds of nullsec are somewhat higher. But only one person can get those rewards (because they are plexes or DED sites), as opposed to highsec which never runs out of L4s no matter how many people talk to an agent at once.

But your motivations, such as they are, have been clear for some time. You have a great, big, huge, unreasoning grudge against anything to do with nullsec. It's plain as day to anyone who can read your posting, and it colors EVERYTHING you say.. In the end, all you are is the guy at the street corner shouting gibberish wearing a tinfoil hat, like the rest of them.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#213 - 2013-10-17 02:31:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Anomaly One
Quote:
In the end, all you are is the guy at the street corner shouting gibberish wearing a tinfoil hat, like the rest of them.


not really, because it's true,

the rest isn't a reply just.. something..
only people who deny it are the one profiting from it, there is no isk to be made in high sec unless you're a nullbear with an alt which multiple posters have already confirmed themselves as such. "high sec has better isk because no risk" nah because you won't dare to take a risk, like the high sec bear who logs out after a wardec a nullbear will log out but to his mission alt in high sec..

only risk to be found is in low sec, it's like somalia over there.

but i'm ranting here already don't care either way nothing will change, just stopping people from crying "nerf highsec" to think they got it right.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#214 - 2013-10-17 02:37:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Suvetar
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Freakdevil wrote:
Klandi wrote:
I would like to wade in here with the comment that you are looking at just one aspect of making money in Eve - effectively ratting.

As I am an industrialist - this thread helps me how?



It doesn't. This thread is just an epeen display. OP is a ninja ratter. Good for him I guess. Zzzzzzz


No its not. If you have been following the 6 month argument I have been having with certain people on this forum you'd know that I have previously proposed that it was possible to make 500 million per hour in null. I was called an idiot, liar and exaggerator.

I was asked to provide proof so I have provided proof that its not only possible, but that you can actually make a lot more than 500 million per hour.

Don't assume you know the motivations of complete strangers.


*snipped flaming* - ISD Suvetar

You have expressly made certain that there is no actual proof of your timeframes in question. All you have done is cherrypicked a few good examples and attempted to prop them up as the entirety of the data. Your "proof" thus far amounts to little more than blurred pictures of Bigfoot as far as it's use as actual data is concerned. To go to lengths like this just to try and "prove" that you do have a clue what you are talking about is pretty crazy, gotta say.

Furthermore, the position has always been, that the single player upper bounds of nullsec are somewhat higher. But only one person can get those rewards (because they are plexes or DED sites), as opposed to highsec which never runs out of L4s no matter how many people talk to an agent at once.

But your motivations, such as they are, have been clear for some time. You have a great, big, huge, unreasoning grudge against anything to do with nullsec. It's plain as day to anyone who can read your posting, and it colors EVERYTHING you say.. In the end, all you are is the guy at the street corner shouting gibberish wearing a tinfoil hat, like the rest of them.

Firstly, making actual personal attacks against me is really unacceptable. You need take a step back and reevaluate how you're behaving towards me. Its getting very creepy.

Secondly, I provided two screenshots today, one with a Eve date and time after I made the OP by several hours. Did I somehow psychically know I was going to have a rare loot of a 800 million site or is it actually as common as I say it is? I think its reasonable to assume the latter.

The pics clearly show me looting 800 million isk worth of modules from a single combat anom container at a time shortly after I made this post claiming I looted 2 billion in loot. I have an alt named L Dopa, if you check his contracts, the last one he created shows an additional 2 Rattler BPC that he sold yesterday, after I looted that 2 billion isks, the Rattler BPC's that I referrred to in my OP. Stretching a little to say I wasn't being straight about it.

Obviously I didn't contract the items saleable on market and I'm not going to screenshot my wallet.

Heres's another I took just now, haven't had a chance to pick it up and sell it yet: More Phat
Lewt

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#215 - 2013-10-17 02:50:23 UTC
Anomaly One wrote:
Quote:
In the end, all you are is the guy at the street corner shouting gibberish wearing a tinfoil hat, like the rest of them.


not really, because it's true,

the rest isn't a reply just.. something..
only people who deny it are the one profiting from it, there is no isk to be made in high sec unless you're a nullbear with an alt which multiple posters have already confirmed themselves as such. "high sec has better isk because no risk" nah because you won't dare to take a risk, like the high sec bear who logs out after a wardec a nullbear will log out but to his mission alt in high sec..

only risk to be found is in low sec, it's like somalia over there.

but i'm ranting here already don't care either way nothing will change, just stopping people from crying "nerf highsec" to think they got it right.



Tell that the arazu that has been chasing me around.

Nope no risk in null sec.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#216 - 2013-10-17 03:10:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Onictus wrote:
Anomaly One wrote:
Quote:
In the end, all you are is the guy at the street corner shouting gibberish wearing a tinfoil hat, like the rest of them.


not really, because it's true,

the rest isn't a reply just.. something..
only people who deny it are the one profiting from it, there is no isk to be made in high sec unless you're a nullbear with an alt which multiple posters have already confirmed themselves as such. "high sec has better isk because no risk" nah because you won't dare to take a risk, like the high sec bear who logs out after a wardec a nullbear will log out but to his mission alt in high sec..

only risk to be found is in low sec, it's like somalia over there.

but i'm ranting here already don't care either way nothing will change, just stopping people from crying "nerf highsec" to think they got it right.



Tell that the arazu that has been chasing me around.

Nope no risk in null sec.

Well its not SAFE. But I feel a lot more comfortable zipping around in a 800 million ship full of billions in loot in Goon space than I do travelling the same way in high sec. In high sec you can die anytime some decides they want to suicide you, in Null, you can die when you mess up, or when someone is better than you, both of those deaths are acceptable. In Null there is certainty and quantifiable risk. Not in high sec.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#217 - 2013-10-17 03:23:34 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yeah I think you Goon peeps are a little overextended. Barely a Goon around to keep the riff raff out. Really, why would anyone pay to rent your space when they can just zip around using it for free.... meanwhile you guys pay the sov bills

Doesn't seem 'fair'.


Nobody cares about you running sites in our space. You're not threatening our sov and you're not interfering with our moon income.

You keep posting about this because you want attention.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#218 - 2013-10-17 03:27:22 UTC
Anomaly One wrote:
only risk to be found is in low sec, it's like somalia over there]

Hehe, actually a very good description! Come join us - we promise we will shoot at you.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Angeal MacNova
Holefood Inc.
Warriors of the Blood God
#219 - 2013-10-17 03:32:33 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Anomaly One wrote:
Quote:
In the end, all you are is the guy at the street corner shouting gibberish wearing a tinfoil hat, like the rest of them.


not really, because it's true,

the rest isn't a reply just.. something..
only people who deny it are the one profiting from it, there is no isk to be made in high sec unless you're a nullbear with an alt which multiple posters have already confirmed themselves as such. "high sec has better isk because no risk" nah because you won't dare to take a risk, like the high sec bear who logs out after a wardec a nullbear will log out but to his mission alt in high sec..

only risk to be found is in low sec, it's like somalia over there.

but i'm ranting here already don't care either way nothing will change, just stopping people from crying "nerf highsec" to think they got it right.



Tell that the arazu that has been chasing me around.

Nope no risk in null sec.

Well its not SAFE. But I feel a lot more comfortable zipping around in a 800 million ship full of billions in loot in Goon space than I do travelling the same way in high sec. In high sec you can die anytime some decides they want to suicide you, in Null, you can die when you mess up, or when someone is better than you, both of those deaths are acceptable. In Null there is certainty and quantifiable risk. Not in high sec.


Really, and do tell with what 800M, combat fit, ship would go down before concord showed up in even a .5 system?

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/goodnight-sweet-prince/

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/the-untold-story/

CCP's true, butthurt, colors.

Because those who can't do themselves keep others from doing too.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#220 - 2013-10-17 03:42:54 UTC
Angeal MacNova wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Anomaly One wrote:
Quote:
In the end, all you are is the guy at the street corner shouting gibberish wearing a tinfoil hat, like the rest of them.


not really, because it's true,

the rest isn't a reply just.. something..
only people who deny it are the one profiting from it, there is no isk to be made in high sec unless you're a nullbear with an alt which multiple posters have already confirmed themselves as such. "high sec has better isk because no risk" nah because you won't dare to take a risk, like the high sec bear who logs out after a wardec a nullbear will log out but to his mission alt in high sec..

only risk to be found is in low sec, it's like somalia over there.

but i'm ranting here already don't care either way nothing will change, just stopping people from crying "nerf highsec" to think they got it right.



Tell that the arazu that has been chasing me around.

Nope no risk in null sec.

Well its not SAFE. But I feel a lot more comfortable zipping around in a 800 million ship full of billions in loot in Goon space than I do travelling the same way in high sec. In high sec you can die anytime some decides they want to suicide you, in Null, you can die when you mess up, or when someone is better than you, both of those deaths are acceptable. In Null there is certainty and quantifiable risk. Not in high sec.


Really, and do tell with what 800M, combat fit, ship would go down before concord showed up in even a .5 system?


OK, I'll tell: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=283417

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.