EVE General Discussion

Doing thing by yourself, while demanding the game be changed to suit your chosen game style... is easy mode.

Somethings in this game require cooperation and working with others... strange for a MMO. That is hard mode.

Changes to destructible SOV mechanics were implemented for small to med gangs. I'm not asking for something to be done solo I'm asking for small med gangs to be able to damage peoples shite in Nullsec.

Just like its possible for null sec to damage shite in highsec in small med gangs (ganking freighters, miners) which they all seem to be fine with. When it comes to their own stuff they're more caring than the high sec carebears.

With POCO's having about a 700hp per second recharge it'd take me a week to kill one solo.

Ah, a refreshing morning "bash null" thread. We must be getting good at something (hint: that is having money and having fun plus being a cool kid club and not letting scrubs in) to make people angry like that.

And wow, a billion ISK worth of a proteus is hard mode indeed! ...let me guess, it's a covert nullified variant? If it is, that's hardly a hard mode, given most combat you'll engage in will be a dumbass carebear that undocked a pve boat with hostiles in local. Damn good skill there, mash directional and just leg it as soon as decent pursuit pops up, given the ratter can't even tackle you back. Kill infrastructure solo? Well, good - get a gang with you. Don't want to be a 'sheep'? Be the shepherd, lead the sheep. Don't want them? Well stick to what you're doing and be weak against numbers, but not reliant on the sheep.

Now don't get me wrong, we ourselves dislike the fact that there's no enemy carebears to shoot because they docked but that's just a reality of nullsec life to you, maybe CCP will one day get around to making anomalies worth risking your ship. For now - they just are not.

To be quite honest, any tactic that can be used by one man to disrupt a nullsec alliance will be abused by a thousand man alliance. Guerilla tactics against sov entities are not only possible but widely utilized during wars - pipe-camps that harass transports and scatter when something bigger runs at them are a prime example.

And lastly, all this has happened before and all this will happen again. A sovereign entity rises from a humble corporation, gathers allies, forms a coalition and builds a great empire. In a few years a new entity will hold Deklein, and if CCP will be kind enough they'll commemorate the battle of VFK with a burned-out husk of Mittaningrad and a lore beacon explaining history to the travellers.

But the CFC (you know now that there's renters involved, we should be named the Clusterfuck Empire) will not fall by the hands of CCP, the devs won't do your job for you. Rally people or join others under a leader and bring it, I doubt the CFC will mind - fight means content, and if you don't bring content to us we'll quite likely bring content to you.

(And as the few hisec raids have shown us, it's damn hilarious when we do.)

My opinion is irrelevant to what the game is or where it goes... I am not CCP.
I am thousands? I don't have that many accounts.

I don't have an invulnerable station... most of those are in highsec.

It's stupid, because a POCO doesn't generate anywhere near enough income to be worth it. So all that would happen is we simply wouldn't use PI. How are you managing to not read this. It's written like 100 times in this thread. Unless Null PI was spiked to make it worth sitting people on it 24/7, any change that makes that a requirement will simply result in us taking them all down and running PI in high sec instead.

See above. A mackinaw can make billions a day. It's income is considerably better than anything a POCO can provide.



AGAIN, see above. It's not about effort in putting it up vs effort to destroy it. It's about costs vs reward. If its easy to blow up, then without a substantial increase to reward it will be easier to just run PI in high sec.

You run a sov holding alliance and protect everything from everyone at all times.
Sure, you can compare it to real life, but EVE isn't real life. It's a game. You can't expect alliances to have to be a 2nd career for all members just because you think it's too hard for you to go structure ganking.

The guys arguing for this don;t want to place a POCO. they want an easy way to be able to damage large alliances without having to fight them. They want to be able to destroy the POCO then run away lolling to themselves. As often happens on the forums, it's a selfish and badly thought out idea. I couldn't give 2 ***** if we have POCOs or not because it's maybe 0.1% of my income at best. You can generally make more on a high sec PI setup turning P1s bought from the market into P2s.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's actually called risk analysis. Since we own hundreds of systems, it's simply safer to work from one of our many other systems than risk being jumped by a probably nullified T3. There's no point hunting a cloaked T3, as you won't engage unless you are sure you'll win, so the easiest and most efficient way to proceed is move. But oh yeah. If you do something to mitigate risk, you were being pro. If we do something to mitigate risk we are being cowards.

So you want to be able to damage null sec structures, even though null sec players cant damage high sec ones? And you think the comparison is we can kill your miners? Are you saying you can't kill our miners?

All I see here is you want to be able to have all the perks of protection, but you want us to have none of them so you have easy KB stats.


lol. You get dumber day by day. When's your sub finishing again?
You want mechanics to be changed to make it easier for you, so you have to put in no effort to beat thousands of players. If you can't see how that would kill EVE, then there is literally no hope for you.


Well apparently what you want is EVE to lose PI ability in null. Since the changes your are talking about would make PI pointless, we simply wouldn't put up POCOs, then you;d b back here whining about how you now want to blow stations up solo.
I get it you know. You have no friends, you suck at working as a team, and you want to play as a solo player. That's fine. But don't expect to be able to dive into a system that is designed by CCP to be for thousands of people fighting and win as a solo player.
There's thousands of targets out there you can destroy, and you can cause damage just by reinforcing POCOS and towers, so you can already achieve what you want to. You just can't do what the game is DESIGNED to require teams for without a team.

You have blinkers on. Either that or you fail at comprehending my words.

My posts have ideas, reasons and ask for counter arguments. What does your post have? Vitriol, insults and lots of stupid....

Your ideas are all about you, with no thought as to how they affect the larger picture.

Give us one good, and acceptable, reason why a solo pilot such as yourself should be able to undo the efforts of tens, hundreds or thousands without putting any effort into it?

Every counter argument that has been given, you've dismissed without giving any real reasons for doing so, purely because you don't think game mechanics should apply to you, what makes you so special?

edit - please point out my stupidity, you've already proven that you're an expert in stupidity so it shouldn't be a problem.

You see those words above in those posts you skipped over... you should read them before commentting. No one is suggesting solo pilots should be able to easily blap sov assets. As I have stated over and over I am talking about small to medium gangs.

There I pointed out your failure at reading whats being argued about.