Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It seemed more like a how to ruin the game thread to me.

I swear I wasn't piloting my freighter drunk.

But then you could say the same about F2P shops, those buying from the shop ensures that it can afford to be F2P.

I haven't payed for eve (real money wise) is about five years. No grinding needed, its very easy to make 600mill in game if you know what you doing, no more than a day a month MAX.

Seems free to play for my bank account.

They've been pushing the whole pay to win f2p model for a while. Just look at the facts. Ever since Incarna, it's been painfully obvious that overhead on Eve development has decreased, with every new expansion just being more and more recycled content surrounded by shiny new things that ultimately don't add content to the game.

Next, we can look at the launcher. It's generally a given that Eve players know where to find information, so why would you make a launcher that looks like every other game, and which is ultimately just a giant billboard for players who already give you money? The reason is that it is the perfect billboard for which to post adds for bunny hats.

Then we have Dust, which is just pay to win period. Nuff said.

After that, we have the homogenization and nerfing of pvp in general in Eve. The introduction of t3's and T3's (both of which are op) make accessing high levels of Eve pvp rediculously easy for characters with less than 10mil sp, on top of which are the upcoming skill changes which only add to the problem. Hell they even renamed prop mods and missles (WHICH WERE ALREADY COLOR CODED) to make things 'easier'.

Now for a playerbase that prides itself on intelligence and challenging gameplay, why would they even think to do this? The answer is that they are trying to proliferate the playerbase with a less questioning and easier to satisfy horde of 12 year old newfags that will happily fork over grandma's credit card for bunnyhats and gold ammo.

The point I was trying to make is PLEX can only exist through RL cash, but so does F2P accounts in F2P games due to people using the F2P shops.

So people buying PLEX from CCP fund the accounts via PLEX in exchange for isk of people that use the PLEX to extend their game time. People that use an F2P shops are funding those accounts that never use the F2P shops. So I don't really see that much difference.

I thought that was the point, no matter which F2P model you chose, someone else is paying for those that don't.

I think maybe some have put too much of their own opinion into my original post.

Many thanks btw to those of you who have replied intelligently (there are far too many knuckledragging trolls these days lol)

I wasn't really meaning a change to the way eve plays by making the whole game free and adding premium items - more making a cut down version of Eve to get those interested who do not want to pay on a monthly basis.

So you are not adding anything but subtracting things for non subscribers.

Personally I thought it may bring an influx of new players.
Those who get the hang of it and want more will subscribe for the abilities I mentioned.

CCP are already adding training for plex with the 2 on one account thingymaboby.

You still give someone the 15 days free (as now) but then the training stops, the implants stop.

This may allow players to taste more of the game before deciding to quit forever because of learning curve etc.

TBH its not much different from what you have now except the unsubbed accounts can still fly around and partake in the Eve universe - but with limits.

Like I said - Just interested in intelligent opinions

(but will read troll replies for laffs and pity)

It's not - for that PLEX to exist, someone had to buy a game time code (money to CCP) and convert it into PLEX. When you buy it with ISK and redeem the PLEX, you may not have paid real world money for the 30 days but someone else did.