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Yes it will, its a side effect and will only happen once as the formation and position is saved from then on.

To add a point here, having the formation centered on your ship with the changes we have made will make scanning other ships in your 150km vicinity just too easy.

For example, currently with the (old) system, you would have to click the launcher several times to launch all probes. If you were launching 8 probes, this would take 8 seconds. You would then have quickly form and resize the probes, maybe 2 seconds or less to the experienced prober.
After which you would analyze, taking between 4-6 seconds. So far we are at about 14 seconds for the quickest possible time (in theory)

With the new system, if the probes were to launch with the formation centered on your ship, it would take two clicks. Hit pinpoint to launch all 8, maybe reduce scan range and then hit analyze. (Takes about 1-2 seconds). Then you wait for the results at about 4+ seconds. So minimum results to get a hit on a ship in your vicinity is reduced from about 14 seconds, to about 4-6 seconds.

We chose not to go this route with the formations.

We have been discussing the point so far, and we are making one change.

• Deactivating probes will not cause them to auto-recall. (When jumping, or logging off etc)

We're still reading up and discussing other points however.

Wouldn't this problem, then, lend more to a solution where you just have to launch probes individually, albeit with the launcher on "auto-repeat"? It seems, then, by doing it the auto-repeat route (vs. having all of them launch at once), you give the cloaked ship some more risk (by having to be decloaked for longer) and give others a chance to catch that prober on dscan, at least? It seems like the shaving the time down by that much is making probing a *bit* OP out the gate, which would be ok if you weren't making some of the other changes, like Ore sites not having to be probed down. At least if you had probe-able Ore sites--even with the mildly-OP scanning--the hapless miner or explorer would have a chance to see the probes on dscan, align and warp off.

are you saying that if you do not deactivate them then the magical instant recall still happens?

if so can you explain scientifically how the probes appear in your cargo instantly when you jump? given that this is a sci-fi game do you set standards on your developers to keep any new functionality in a 'scientifically feasible' domain? if so i think your QA sprint let one slide here.

If you have to RUN, then you can just leave the probes behind. Waiting for the probes to return is realistic. The "fail" was the magic and instantaneous return of the probes from some distant point in space to your ship.

Actually right now on sisi the current implementation seems to be that if you activate the launcher (not the formations) it launches 8 probes directly at your ship's location without any formations whatsoever.

That's totally fair, imo.

In other news, if you do this and immediately press return it seems the probes won't actually return to the ship. They'll just say "warping" and then "returning" and they'll get stuck there. They do however magically end up in cargo if you jump or dock.

Tried scanning again, and I'm impressed with how it looks and works now (from a week ago). Thank you for implementing and fixing a lot of the little things (sortable columns, copy-paste, timer, etc.). I also especially like that when you go into the f10 map, it shows you the "red bubbles" for the approximate position of signatures. My only wish at this point would be for the game to remember the "best" scan for all signatures, even if they are not in range of the current scan, which I assume would be in the Future Maybes:

Probably already been touched on but... If I ignore a anom/sig in the scanning list it would be neat if it wasnt displayed on the sensor overlay.

this. to avoid repeating myself: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3105359

I still wonder: what's the point of only being able to launch 8 probes at once?
If I want to probe with merely one probe (for sig strength etc.) it will still be possible:
Launch 8 probes, deactivate 1, recover (active) probes, et voilà, you have your single probe - with much more effort
So since it will technically still be possible to merely use one, where is the point?
Why is it so easy and fast now? Don't you guys feel that it is becoming too easy? Eve has always been a bit exciting because most things aren't so easy. That WoT-point-and-click method will make it very boring very soon in my opinion.
Nowadays dropping the probes at a planet/moon/sun might still get you killed in W-space because it takes about 10-16 seconds to drop probes. So you should get a safe first. After the patch it will be virtually impossible to catch a cloaky prober dropping his probes (decloak, drop probes, warp and cloak - probably doable in less than a second; i know you cannot instantly cloak again, but if you are aligned, decloak and warp after the drop, you are lockable for less than a second). WHY? Are the carebears really crying that hard and loud?
I mean with the new system I could probably even do it in front of an enemy POS just to mock them.

Also what will happen with the sisters expanded/core probe launcher?
One of its boni was that it had a faster "rate of fire" (1,5 seconds instead of 2 seconds compared to the expanded/core probe launcher ii). This bonus will now be useless and it mattered in the past (at least in my humble opinion). Will there be another bonus to compensate (e.g. less deviation)? Or will the 10% scan strength possibly be buffed to 12,5% or maybe even 15%?


(The quote is just as a reminder so it isn't overlooked :P)