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But that's just it... they can do both. They can maintain things for those established in the system while introducing PCOs in a way that the system and economy can absorb with relatively little pain. By simply leaving the customs offices in place, even for a period of three to six months outside of low, permanently in low, you allow everyone plenty of time to adapt while the PCO model establishes. If I have reasonable time to gather the BPCs and build the PCOs needed in my hole (will be up to 10) then for me nothing breaks at all. It becomes nothing more than an annoying added expense, but that can be absorbed. It's the cold turkey you're-PI-is-dead-right-now approach that concerns me personally, and with regards to high sec into low sec PI the fact that without customs offices to fight for the high sec folks are pretty much screwed and completely at the mercy of other people for their PI when that's never been the case before.

I don't hate or even dislike the PCO concept. I don't trust it as of yet, this is true... giving other people control over someone else's PI seems inherently bad... but if implemented intelligently and not forced down our throats generating an immediate gag reflex I think it can wind up working well.

Right now... a lot of people are gagging.

So it seems despite all the feedback to CCP that the concept was broken for low sec we see on SiSi it implemented as blogged?

They really don't get it.

Issler

Except youre assuming that the 'concept for low sec' is broken: when it plaintively isnt. Destructable Low Sec POCOs are the desperately needed future. Accept that the 'free and easy' ISK font is going and adapt accordingly.

C.

If CO's in low sec are destructible on SiSi, then I see that as an indication they are making changes based on our feedback.

We asked NPC-CO's be left but made destructible in Low Sec and that's what's being reported...

It may be a bit of a stretch to say they don't get it... not if their re-iterating.

Sorry don't have time to read through all these pages, so maybe this has been said.

If I got this right you are saying that an individual and/or member of an npc corp can't build a customs office in low sec. In which case CCP just gonna shoot themselves in the foot yet again. Way to go if you want to loose even more old players who are in an npc corp and are happy that way. Not to mention many more new players who may also prefer not to join a non npc corp.

Low sec has been underutilised for years now and just when you introduce something that gives more players the incentive to explore and use low sec, you go and nerf it.

Introduce new stuff by all means, but don't keep moving the goal posts and nerfing stuff that many players have spent a great deal of time setting up for themselves.

Jeez when are you guys gonna wake up.

They could experience Eve in all its glory by joining or forming a player corp. NPC corps have their place, but they can also be a hinderance. This is an excellent case in point.

Since they are totally defenceless, i would suggest putting in some kind of defence.

Etc, it would be pretty annoying while your sleeping that some noob spend some few hours alone sitting with his drones to get the office down to reinforce mode.

A way to add some defence to it can be done in some ways.

1. being able to upgrade the office with an attachment of dronebay. (150 m3) with 125 bandwith
The dronebay attachment has 4 med slots, etc with the purpose of putting an sensor booster on it, some drone mod bonus'ses.
As standard the dronebay attachment would have an range of 50km (hench why u can attach a sensor booster.
Depending on the size of the attacking ship, the dronebay attachment would then send out drones accordingly to the mass of
The attacker. Etc. light drones (if in stock) against a frig. Heavy drones vs bc & bs or aboth.

2. The office could be upgradeble with small to medium guns, those guns cant be killed, but if the office went into reinforce mode,
The guns would be shut down, untill repaired.

now a q.

In lowsec, its a criminal act to attack an another player where u would loose standing, would it count in the same way when attacking an office (unless u at war)

A bunch of NPC corp people can cooperate to take down a POCO, but not enough to setup an alt corp that anchors a new one?

In any case, I think forcing people to keep their lowsec POCOs open to all makes lots of sense. It fits lowsec gameplay better, in the same way a lowsec corp can "claim" a station, but can't stop others from using it except by permacamping the undock. And it makes more sense for the lore.

What is there to like about being in an NPC corp?

The taxes you pay "to the man" for no benefit?

The camaraderie of hundreds of newbies in corp chat asking the same silly questions over and over?

Perhaps it's the false sense of community one gets when they see green star icons in hi-sec all the time?

Or is it just the sad fear of being wardec'd in a real corporation that keeps them in the shallow end of the pool?

The steep standing hit may prevent large nul sec alliances from marauding through low sec, blowing up all the customs offices, and becoming absentee landlords.

That could be a good thing.