Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I am new to flying BS, just got my first Raven the other day. I do mostly Industry for my Corp. and have only missile skills as a result, thus the Raven is the only BS that makes sense. That being said, these nerfs seem a bit heavy handed. It is already very challenging to get the skills up to fly, and now the base resists are being hacked? Really makes the BS class much less attractive. My goal was to be able to fly an all around BS, to help run missions and support. I don't like being forced into a specific role.

I compare it to manufactures coming out with a new car. Is my old car less by comparison, of course it is, but no one comes to my house and takes things off of the old car. There are players that have spent years training into a perfect fit, now that gets thrown out the window?

First the Drake gets creamed on it's tank, fine.. train into BS, now that is weakened as well. It almost seems as if level 5 skills are being purposely made weak.

Those that have already posted in this thread are far more knowledgeable about the actual numbers on shield resists and everything, but I am beginning to wonder if the BS class is just becoming obsolete. To much specialization can do more harm then good.

Until something is done about Cruise and Torpedoes, no one is going to fly the Raven for PVP. Even the missile precision changes can't fix how bad they currently they are.

I think the Rokh should have a damage bonus instead of optimal. It really should, imo, be able to do more dps then a Naga.

No, the Rokh is far too slow to use a straight damage bonus effectively. Also it's range bonus IS a damage bonus. Try fitting blasters.

Now I'm off to go sulk over the Rokh nerf.

You should really give the Scorpion a 5/8/5 layout since it is primarily armor fit.

I agree, the offensiveness of the scorp isnt in the weapons, its in the ECMs. The mids occupy this area yet they buffed the structure and shields??? CCP we do NOT shield tank scorps. revert the shields back to original specs and apply those buffs to armor...or swap a HS for an extra low.

I feel that the Rohk is fine with its resistance bonus at 5%. Here CCP buffs everyday t1 cruisers, but in regards to battleships, they are just chomping at the bit to nerf them.

Someone explain to me why this is the case. Battleships are supposed to be mean and scary....not, handicaped.

poor rokh still does not get 75m3 drone bay :(

Much is already said, can't realy judge without seeing the Large missile adjustments.

I've one burning question though.

Why does a ship with a weapon system that fires t1 missiles at 168km a bonus on range and a max base locking range of 75KM

In my SNI the only cruise missile that has a range within my targeting range (113km with skills) is the precision missiles. and that starts with a base targeting range of 90 KM.

So we have a weapon bonus that isn't useful unless you sacriice extra slots aside from your weapons?

so it has one lager missile bonus and one Torp bonus.

I don´t see a massive comeback for the Raven as a PVP ship, with it becoming easier to ly battleships in the future I even see it losing some potential to the Typhoon.

I'm late to this thread, but I thought I'd offer my two cents.

I'm currently the (predominant) writer and maintainer of the Scorpion wiki page.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Scorpion

You'll (the developers/CCP) see here what others have mostly said: The Scorpion is an armor tanked disruption boat. As such, it probably doesn't fit too nicely into tiericide, but like the Typhoon, occupies a special niche where "flexibility" is key.

There are some options besides slow and HP layout that may enable you to bring the Scorpion more in line with Caldari doctrine without reducing it to just another "line" battleship.

• Shield resistance bonus - If you want to move the Scorpion away from needing an armor tank so much, then place an innate bonus on the shields that won't require a ton of modules to augment. A disruption scorp pilot is going to fit 4-6 ECM, regardless.
• Mobility bonus - Currently, if you're flying Scorpion in a fleet, you're going to be primaried, regardless. More so than any other defense, a speed tank would really help here. It would give the Caldari another "fast" ship in a race that's too lacking them, and an actual useful defense in the rear of a fleet. Be it a bonus to afterburners, or cap reduction, whathave you.

Of these, I favor the speed route, in so much as it isn't apt to result in alt configurations too out of place with a "Brick" Scorpion configuration of hardeners, extenders, and build-in resists. But it's an option.

You'll note that I don't give much thought to the Scorpion's high slots, and I think that theme should stay (in order to both 1. Sorta justify the Widow) and encourage options with a vessel who's role isn't "attack" anyways. Of course, that gives you room to play. (Hell, be adventurous for once. Give it a smartbomb bonus. =)

I'll add here that, while I'm sure many might disagree, I wasn't thrilled with the result of the SNI, and think a Navy ECM boat would be just supurb.

Despite the many changes to ECM, the Scorpion has done fairly well in being the only survivable EW platform in a fleet. Make sure it endures as such.