EVE General Discussion

Haven't read through *everything* (so it might be here)

Velator (and IIRC, the other noobships), with appropriate fitting skills can fit a cyno + fuel without any additional modules (cargohold expansion, co-processor, etc). Better to get rid of it before the big guns show up...

That possibility is outweighed by far by the potential gains. To Everyone that can afford to fit and fly a Tengu in low sec and even actively engage in PVP (You could still be the bait after all) the price of the missiles he wasted on you is such an insignifficant amount off isk that it could be none at all, he won't even notice.

On the other hand, You could've carried one thousand plexes in Your cargo hold.

Granted, the chance of anyone doing something like this is nigh nonexistent, but it's there and it wouldn't be the first time.

Okay they shoot you with a missile. For what they know you are a ****** and carry reaply expensive stuff. Which make them have an income.

Or you are a neutral cyno for a cap fleet that just got stalled.

If you go into lowsec you are warned that its dangerous. This counts for all ships.

Now. Keep the tears going. Tank almost full again.....

If you had studied game theory and it's application instead of reading the wikipedia page you'd know a knowledge of game theory isn't required to take part in a game, meerely that you are a rational actor, which requires you knowing the rules of the game.

The situation you have described is a game where the PvPer has two options: Kill or don't kill.

Kill provides plenty of potential benefits, not matter how small the benefit or the possibility or getting that benefit, and not killing provides literally no benefit to the PvPer.

Therefore any rational actor will always pick the kill option as there is no reason not to. They don't need to know game theory to know that, they just need to know the rules of the game, which they do.

If you have actually studied game theory it sounds like you failed the course.

Yes i agree, plus i don't know about the rest of you but it's fun to switch "professions" in EVE from time to time. I just need 2 solid months of skill training to get into blops.

What hellhole are you from? you abort babies? Where i'm from it's only allowed to abort a fetus. Pretty sick story bro.

Two Ventures, each equipped with a web active on the other, aligned to a celestial should be able to mine while moving at a speed that allows them to hit warp fast, the built in double WCS works to their advantage as well, it requires multiple points or a infinipoint to actually tackle them.

You can also cram it full of BPO's and PLEX.

TL;DR, because I can, because you're there, and because I really like pressing my F1 key and watching something go 'foooooom!'

You have highlighted one of the key issues with EVE. Next time, don't waste so much time trying to preempt the trolls.

If you post it; they will come.

I pretty much did this when I first started. (It was a few years ago, when noob-ships were much less of a threat.) I thought they would get tired at some point, but they literally just sat there killing my noob ship for hours. The short and unsatisfying answer as to why, as far as I can tell is simply this: People are apes.

I didn't understand, at first, either. The first thing you should take into account is that we are basically chimpanzees. The main difference between a good number of humans on this Earth and their ape cousins is a baseball cap and an iPod, and they will mimmick what they see. (Monkey see; monkey do.) So, if they see someone else be a jackass, they (sociopaths) will likely be influenced to be one as well, because "that's how we play the game". Others (vandals and sadists) are probably genuinely destructive, anti-social individuals who enjoy "making things go boom" and "harvesting tears". Still others (cowards) probably do it defensively, because it is better to be the "lion" than the "gazelle". A fourth group (psychopaths) are those that actually advocate such behavior, as it serves their purposes in a crude, but effective way, although, it is probably rare to find this last group actually perpetrating the behavior themselves.

I think these 4 groups do most of the "mindless" PVP. The "mindful" PVP is obviously a lot more complicated, and it is sometimes hard to differentiate the two. Learning the "why" is part of the metagame that makes EVE so challenging and so rewarding. Good luck, capsuleer.