EVE General Discussion

I don't mind if they get wardecs, but there needs to be a balence to it. War all the time is a bit much. It wouldn't be easy to train people other things while at war. And I don't believe they should or do have an unfair advantage that other corps don't/can't have.

I just think OP needs to put this pointless grudge to rest. Drama queens need to have breaks, don't they?

On a side note: Goons and Test are big teaching corps? For some reason I never thought of Test and Goons as teaching new players. Maybe they do, but I think ít's a very small part of what they really do and not their main focus.

Have you ever noticed that you are the only person who cares about what E-Uni is doing? And since you got kicked out of the uni for being a huge troll how do you expect anybody to take you seriously?

There's a difference between GMs having to deal with edge cases, and making it legal to create corps and alliances, blatantly, to simply drive up the cost of wardecs.

You also seem to think that if someone DOES pay the exorbiant costs of the wardec, then the corp won't just hop alliances to remove the wardec within 24 hours. Which is now within the rules.

This isn't a change whose only impact is making the wardec costs less, it is a change that makes PVP opt-in within highsec.

As for thinking the Uni will "drop their dec shield for a wardec week" - hah. Really.

I almost wish E-Uni WERE given special treatment, because this change has allowed every carebear corp in highsec to use the same exploits.

Apparently a lot of people are peeved that high sec is now a PvP-free zone (minus suicide ganking), all because EVE University lobbied hard for some sort of change to the wardec mechanics to make their lives easier.

This is what CCP gave them (and the rest of high-sec benefits as a side-effect) -- exploits are now legal.

Deary me, it's getting hard to keep track of all these threads of yours, Poetic!

As much as I like the sound of being a part of the shadow CSM, I feel the need to once again clarify some of the misinformation Poetic is spreading.

Firstly, we never asked for these policy changes. We have pressured CCP to look at wardec mechanics for many years now, but to put it frankly we're just not that important. It's possible that these policy changes were intended as a bone to distract us, or perhaps CCP truly did mean it as a favour to us, but we weren't directly consulted and would much rather see an improved wardec system than have to use a decshield.

Secondly, the idea that we dislike PvP is flat out ridiculous. Our desire for wardec improvement does not come from wanting to be immune to PvP, it comes from war in Empire space being pointless and terrible, as well as our being consistently wardecced for the majority of a year by people who have no intention of fighting. We are constantly PvPing both in the traditional UniBlobs and small gangs in low and NPC nullsec, and have recently completed the first of what should hopefully become regular wardec events that provide actual fighting for everyone involved. We will also be using our decshield corps, which are now operated by what I consider to be official E-UNI Best Friends, to run wargames with our students. PvP training has never been a focus for E-UNI (due to there being several corporations out there who already offer excellent PvP training), but if anything it is currently on the increase, not the opposite.

With regards to our player base, yes we have a sizeable group of experienced pilots, most of whom function as staff in some form (be it administrative, teaching, mentoring or military). Poetic is correct (for once) in that we are not solely a "newbie" corp, but train anybody and everybody who has a desire to learn, so we also have many experienced pilots who are actively taking part in classes and events. Finally, even with the decshield, the NPC corps are still the best "carebear haven" available.

I understand that you're angry, Poetic. I'm genuinely sorry for the hurt we clearly caused you, but this is going beyond silly now. Do you even believe what you're writing?

What GMs say is that they do not consider this an exploit as far as their work is concerned, all they say is that they will not punish the exploit.

It's still an exploit, a use of game mechanics in unintended ways in order to gain an advantage and this is the truth.

And truth is not decided by majority vote.

The WSOP has everything to do with all of the whining about faildecs coming from the University. Why would you even care about faildecs if it wasn't for your overly restrictive WSOP? If a wardeccer wasn't attacking you, that would be great and fantastic, no? But it's not, because of your WSOP.

What a load of complete BS. Have you taken over as Propaganda Minister from that tool Irdalth? (You are better at it then he is. You should consider switching Director roles with him.)

You use the WSOP for every wardec (minus this last month). If a wardec turns into a faildec, you simply use a slightly less restrictive version of the WSOP known as the R-WSOP. But it's still pretty restrictive.

First of all, the Uni griefs itself. No one is forcing them to use their WSOP. They do that to themselves. I cannot force them to use their own WSOP, so how do you figure that's me griefing them?

Secondly, thanks to EVE University's lobbying of CCP, wardeccing any corporation is a complete waste of time now. All exploits to avoid wardecs are now legal.

No, we use the RSOP when there is a threat but it isn't deemed very serious, which is the majority of the faildecs we get these days. The full WSOP is only used during wardecs where there is a very real threat. If there is no threat at all, then we don't use any of the WSOP options and remain at a non-war but high alert status. This happens vary rarely, but it does happen (the last time was the recent war with Personal Training that started a week or two before the NSOP event and is currently ongoing). Furthermore, we're in the process of making more changes to the way we deploy the WSOP following the success of the recent NSOP event that should see even less use of the WSOP in future.

Also please stop insulting Irdalth, it's making you look even worse than you normally do. Irdalth is one of the nicest people in this game, not to mention one of the hardest working, and anybody who has spoken to him will tell you the same. That you somehow managed to fall out with him really speaks volumes.