EVE General Discussion

There are two CSMs in this game.

The one that the players voted for. And EVE University.

The recent wardec policy changes are proof of EVE University, via Kelduum Revaan, being the other de facto CSM. CCP caters to their needs, without any oversight by the players. They've become a carebear haven. They are now effectively impossible to wardec. CCP gave them, in essence, a PvP flag. They can turn it on or off at their whim. Their decshield is 19 corporations strong, and they've been allowed to use an exploit to avoid the CONCORD costs of that decshield.

The only single danger left for them is the suicide gank. Any other method of PvP against them is fruitless.

Why worry about Eve-Uni?
No one really cares what you think about Eve-Uni. because you've gone on about them over and over again. Don't you think it's getting a bit old? How long can you hold a grudge for?

I've never been part of the Uni. I just think it's just a corp that helps people new to Eve. Which is great cause Eve isn't the easiest thing to just play without learning how to do all the different things in the game, and you feel like it's your job to give them a hard time about not much at all.

I'd like to see you try running a corp thats meant to train new players while getting heaps of wardecs. I don't think it's a simple thing unless you want to teach people how to fight during a wardec.

get over it.


/me feeding something bad and knowing it wont change.

Aw, can't afford the 1B/week fee? Seems like you need to mine more blue ice.

Not really any one cares and besides, this is just making EVE Uni into an honorary ISD based corp hehe

Half their members are carebear lifers. Thirty-five percent are 4-8 months old. And fifteen percent are newbies. (You can run the stats on their full member list, available on their website.) They welcome newbies, but they're not a newbie corporation.

Besides, no one in this game should be able to recuse themselves from the Sandbox.

Exactly this. You should not be able to reap the rewards of a corporation and its infrastructure while effectively making yourself immune to all but the wealthiest of people in the game. Not even a corporation that does so much supposed "good."

Isn't one of the most common pieces of advice given to nubbins, "don't buy/create that which you are unwilling or unable to protect" ?

Then maybe CCP should do their job in retaining players on their own. Set-up their own NPC training corp run by GMs. Rather than giving special favours and privileges to a player-run corporation.

All CCP is doing is setting up a carebear haven that is free from most of the harshness of New Eden.

Unless EVE University has to start kicking people from the corp after 6-8 months of membership (minus a small select teaching staff), then this corporation is simply going to morph from newbie training corp to carebear haven (and it's been slowly morphing into this for years), since nearly all forms of PvP can now be avoided within the confines of EVE University.

I'm a sweetheart.

Is agony unleashed still going? Cant remember if its them or eve-uni that just teaches people to spam ecm everywhere.

@Op.

That's funny. I recall that very recently, Eve University went to the rescue of Chribba's Sov.
To me, that's a good thing and shows a willingness to fight for the right reasons.
They were there. So was the Northern Coalition. Where you there ? You don't care ?

You claim they are getting an unfair advantage by using an exploit which now, apparently everyone else can and does use.
How does that give them the advantage ? Everyone can use the same mechanism.

You mention some statistics without giving a source of the types of members they have in the Corp. (x%) newbies, (x%) older players - meaningless numbers without factual data. Why are you so upset over this ? You keep posting and reposting the same story.

You want to Wardec them but cannot afford it or what ? What is your reason - and it cannot be that they are being "protected" because the mechanism is open to all. Go on, give us the facts, backed by proper data.

Else it's all just butthurt hokum.

Protecting corps and alliances like this is silly and should be removed asap.
However, talking about eve uni as an example is just r3tarded, cause i dont think there is any other corp in eve that has had as many war dec's against them.
At least try and find some other targets every once in a while so eve-uni actually have time to train up players in between all the dec's.



Oh, and why the f'ing hell is r3tarded censored??????