Ships & Modules

With 150% of the EHP, more drones, more speed, more agility, more scanres, more range, more DPS, more alpha, and enough slots to armor tank it ? Why not.
And you can fit a smartbomb/neut on a mael, you know.

The nightmare is fine if you have tengu links, crystals, improved blue pills and a 6b fit (have you seen Burn Eden ? I saw some good footages in it. Oh w---)
Once the offgrid ganglinks will get removed... Not better than the average XASB mael.

On a side note, I would like to see a duel between you and Fon. A forum war, I mean. :3

Also, a word about the pirate faction ships and pve. i'd like to see a situation evolve where each pirate factions ship is given an edge concerning PVE on it's own faction.

In other words it would be nice if , for example, the Bhaalgorn was a better PVE ship in Blood Raider space than other pirate faction ships.

As it is now, I've had a better time using Rattlesnakes, Navy Ravens and Machariels against Bloods than their own ship. The pirate faction's own sub-capital ships should be better against that faction than anything save Marauders and maybe in some cases Tech3.

I don't have any specific suggestions, just putting this out there.

Do you know the definition of the word "almost"? Maybe not, so let me rephrase. The bpcs come from exploration and null sec missions.

Better?

And do you know the definition of "almost exclusively" ? Because a ****-ton of BPCs are coming from this LP store.
Unless you're going to explain me that "almost exclusively" means in fact "well, only about half of it, anyway I WAS RIGHT AND I KNEW IT AND YOU'RE WRONG AH AH AH".

This way.

Skip the nerfing of any of these ships. The Angel ships are fine as they are... A VERY expensive and VERY skill intensive line up of ships. Buff the ships that need it and bring them all into line with each other. If that means raising the bar on all the pirate faction ships to the level of the Angel ships... SO BE IT!!!

That is the point of these pirate ships. To out perform all other T1 ships and equal or barely beat out T2 ships. Thats why we pay the ISK and skill time to fly them. They hurt to lose.

i never use it because im a cheapo but i think the mach should get back the 6 turrets layout that would bring the ship inline cutting the dps a bit but keeping the speed agility advantage, a change like that would keep the ship viable for pvp and a bit less for pve, a agi speed nerf would totally cripple the thing for pvp and still keep its OPness in pve.

the cyna sometime i use it yeah its good but its very balanced imho with the vigilant which apparently need no tweakings its OP compared to the vaga and the share the same niche but that is a vaga proble and i hope it will be fixed on the T2 rebalance

I don't understand why CCP even thinks the cynabal needs nerfing.

Its just a little bit better vagabond. Big deal?

In my opinion Sansha ships must be brute base shield EHP+ brute laser DPS , with 1 of the worst agility/speed
ATM Nightmares only shine on laser dps because of 2 secondary effects ( shield tanking free up low slot and the ability to fit tachyons without mods ) and all Sansha ships are lacking effective turrets compared to other laser boats ( 10 for Nm as for Oracle and for Abaddon, and those last 2 can effectively fit a dps t2 rig with the cheapest not having cap problems ) . True 2 utility hi-slots are really a lot, my suggestion is less base DMG mod ( 75-80% ) and an extra turret hard point making more effective turrets ( around 11 for NM , to give some direct special advantage over t1 amar hulls ) plus a cap saving effect like in almost good amarr ships ( ok , was already built-in into the 100% dmg bonus , fix somehow )

Hula

I was talking about the cynabal, bro. o/

How unique are they/the bonus allowed to be? Neuts and lasers are as already stated an iffy concept so the main hurdle is capacitor .. we currently have two primary capacitor booster systems, so why not slap a role bonus on them.
1. Superior conduit designs and layouts allow for 50% more energy to be gained when expending cap booster charges, or
2. Superior conduit designs and layouts doubles the effects of using batteries (neut feedback and raw cap).

Again, how unique do you want them? Obvious solution is to give them the Amarr TD bonus, when/if TDs are changed to work on missiles it would enhance the kiting friendliless (dependent on TE changes) ..
Another way to achieve (sort of) the same is to give them partial eWar immunity, say 10%/lvl decrease in effectiveness of eWar used against them and make the tracking a static role bonus .. again, when/if TDs are changed. Should give them a leg up when used for the much-blown-horn of small-gang harassing/killing a larger.

Hit them with the current tier3 BC spreadsheet: Fast, nimble but flimsier than wet cardboard boxes .. afford them enough fittings to let people do (almost) what they want with available slots and let 'er rip.

You (CCP, not you specifically although you might have had a hand in them ) did a bang-up job with the tournament prize ships and their bonuses. As RP focused, I have always thought of the pirate factions as being outside of society finding their own paths so is a little disheartening to see their ships being nothing more than souped up family sedans and would love for them to have truly unique attributes.
In short: Don the tourny prize ship thinking cap when re-evaluating the pirate ships!

Note: I consider the Angel line the poster boys of the Winmatar era and my hate for that dictate that I do not give them much thought, hence the bland tier3 BC suggestion.