EVE General Discussion

I think it would be unwise to take Rise's statement into consideration as He works in a different area of development.

What about those that dont? They dont deserve any new content to play with?



Yea im sure they will be fine.

I simply took Rise's statement as a "we're going to take our time". Avatars are obviously something CCP wants to do, and something I think they should do, but it's also something CCP realizes will take a lot of work. A lot of the opposition to avatars is that many people think (with good reason) that avatar play would be nothing more than a fancy interface. CCP knows this, so they have Team Avatar working on how to give avatar play some actual use - introducing gameplay elements that require you to use avatars.

My guess is that they'll shoot for a big avatar-focused expansion in two to four years. They can do this because CCP is rightfully confident that EVE will still be around then. That should give them enough time to figure it out. It would be smart for them to include some non-avatar content, like rebalancing ships or somesuch.

Watch out everyone Rhes is posting again. His posts give me cancer.

Dust and wod took resources away from eve long before incarna and cost CCP a lot of cash, to the point that they had to take out an emergency loan to stay afloat whilst continuing dust and wod development, without the loan dust would never have been finished, the non eve development diverted resources away from eve and lead to a poorly executed and badly handled incarna and micro transaction store, which itself only existed because of CCPs desperate need for cash. Hilmar himself has admitted all of this in various post incarna statements.

My point is that wod and dust and soon to be valkyrie do not pay the bills and probably never will and had CCP not devoted so much resources to non eve projects and had spent the money on eve online instead then we all could have the eve we want, outstanding avatar gaming alongside and fully integrated with flying in space, a proper living world of science fiction to echo CCP seagulls words...

I support CCPs desire to create multiple streams of income as this makes for a healthy company but it's wrong to do it at the expense of the core game that's paying the bills. Sadly this is exactly what's happening now with wod and valkyrie whilst dust is being pushed of life support.

Two years of ship balancing, ui improvements and minor additions to game play disguised as expansions are not what the fis community deserve, likewise zero development on avatar content is not what the wis community deserves. CCP created this problem by creating an industry leading character creator and a badly implemented room, all I ask is that they finish the job and do it fairly by working on both wis and fis.

Even $3.5 millions worth Elite: Dangerous is going to implement avatar gameplay at some point yet for CCP it's "costly" with their $66mil/year budget ($12-16 millions on R&D alone). Greed is good!

so basically, making the game cooler for new players, so after they chase all the vets out, they'll know they have a good 5-10 years before the enw players get to a point where they start seeing the same shortfalls we do in the servers/game?

So huh, I actually read the article on themittani and noticed something about new models - got me to read up the entire AMA thing with Rise. There's a lot of "management will toss me into the piranha pool if I say anything more" which is understandable company policy. A Dev saying something about a feature usually leads to wild rumourmongering.

But, there's a few fun tidbits:



They acknowledge there's a problem with sov, they also acknowledge replacing it will not be easy. They need to be careful working on it, else we'll end up with something even worse than Dominion system for Sov.

And, something for the fans of zooming in or spinning in hangars:


More on rebalancing, black ops and T3s. Let's hope Covert Legion ceases to be useless because hey - lasers pew pew!



Judging by him not saying "No!" I reckon a SoE BS is in works too. Time to get that Gal/Amarr BS up to 5 + Large lasers, we've got a faction Black Ops coming in. By the tone of things, POS code revamp may hit before SOV does simply because it affects more people (Pretty much everyone really.)

That's well put but I bet it'll just get lost in the drivel about how CCP is bad for not developing WiS and working on spaceships instead. Gamedev is kind of like pimpin' - it ain' easy.

You and Rhes (it made me think you are his alt, since he completely disappeared from this thread once you started posting your tirades about spaceships and how bad avatars are for Eve) are the ones that love to troll this thread with so much of your own nonsense - how bad WiS, Incarna and whatever Avatar content is or would be for "only spaceships" game. It went as far as you two posting your crap in the "Team Avatar and the future of our prototype" while Rhes saying that 95% people who are avatar content proponents are trolls, all while he plastered "dress-up spacebarbies" and "2nd Life" in every his previous post.

Now please give us an example where anyone said it is bad for devs to work on spaceships? The only concern here that ppl express is that CCP does too little for what their "vision" is. Ship balance is not an expansion worthy material again. Most people agree on that the latest expansions lack much content and are merely patches. Also what most agree on is that side projects were main reason Eve is more or less in maintenance mode now.