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NULL whiners mantra is getting tedious... and CSM lacks HI SEC representation

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Historical Research Advocate
Doomheim
#801 - 2012-09-05 03:20:08 UTC
its like troll patrol. darth nefarius, tippia, james 315 and plunderbunny all post within minutes of each other.

excitement and paranoia abound.

also, whine. i mean wine.
Historical Research Advocate
Doomheim
#802 - 2012-09-05 03:21:38 UTC
sometimes you gotta troll from the golf cart so you don't drop your beer
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#803 - 2012-09-05 03:30:49 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Tippia wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
You are totaly wrong there Tippia CCP took way too long to address the issue that is why represention on the CSM is needed: Too bring up issues affecting consituants in a timely manner.
The whining started in earnest in May; the patch when live three months later… the CSM had one meeting between the two. That's pretty darn timely.

My point is, none of the things you listed seem to require any special representation beyond what we already have.


There was whining every Hulkageddon not just last May when it was comming to a fevered pitch with the threat of a prema Hulkygeddon. TBH I think CCP did not do the tank buff because of the HI SEC whines anyways they did it because the Drone nerf was requiring better yields to keep up with the loss of drone poo.
CCP added tank to the barges probably was an after thought due to circumstances which saw NULL mining going gang busters & HI SEC mining leveling off due to the perma Hulkageddon creating the imbalance of minerals we see today between ABC's& 'low ends'.
Relying on CCP to be your represenative is special representation which shouldn't be required
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Historical Research Advocate
Doomheim
#804 - 2012-09-05 03:35:17 UTC
i came for ping pong, found alt poster working all four of his sock puppets
Historical Research Advocate
Doomheim
#805 - 2012-09-05 03:35:31 UTC
where the hell is pipa
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#806 - 2012-09-05 03:45:19 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
There was whining every Hulkageddon not just last May when it was comming to a fevered pitch with the threat of a prema Hulkygeddon. TBH I think CCP did not do the tank buff because of the HI SEC whines anyways they did it because the Drone nerf was requiring better yields to keep up with the loss of drone poo.
…which would mean that representation is still not an issue.

Quote:
Relying on CCP to be your represenative is special representation which shouldn't be required
…but then again, there is no special representation needed for ship balancing since it's an issue that touches all of EVE. It is also a massively complex undertaking and a continuous process — the “timely manner” in which issues are brought to CCP isn't through the CSM to begin with but rather in the dev blog and sisi threads.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#807 - 2012-09-05 03:55:04 UTC
Historical Research Advocate wrote:
its like troll patrol. darth nefarius, tippia, james 315 and plunderbunny all post within minutes of each other.

excitement and paranoia abound.

also, whine. i mean wine.


Tippia's wine tastes like vingar I hear compared to my spiced whines & James's cheese.
Lol
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#808 - 2012-09-05 04:04:23 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Tippia wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
There was whining every Hulkageddon not just last May when it was comming to a fevered pitch with the threat of a prema Hulkygeddon. TBH I think CCP did not do the tank buff because of the HI SEC whines anyways they did it because the Drone nerf was requiring better yields to keep up with the loss of drone poo.
…which would mean that representation is still not an issue.

Quote:
Relying on CCP to be your represenative is special representation which shouldn't be required
…but then again, there is no special representation needed for ship balancing since it's an issue that touches all of EVE. It is also a massively complex undertaking and a continuous process — the “timely manner” in which issues are brought to CCP isn't through the CSM to begin with but rather in the dev blog and sisi threads.


Relying on CCP's representation is like Syrian citizens relying on the UN to help them out in their civil war. By the time they get past the russian/chinese vetos half of those suffering will be gassed or refugees by the time they get proper representation.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#809 - 2012-09-05 04:11:24 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Relying on CCP's representation is like Syrian citizens relying on the UN to help them out in their civil war. By the time they get past the russian/chinese vetos half of those suffering will be gassed or refugees by the time they get proper representation.
Lol No.

What you're complaining about has nothing to do with representation. It has to do with ship balancing being a slow process.

It's still not an issue that needs special representation since it's universe-wide. Well, aside from capship balancing where highsec reps would be pretty useless.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#810 - 2012-09-05 04:15:52 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Tippia wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Relying on CCP's representation is like Syrian citizens relying on the UN to help them out in their civil war. By the time they get past the russian/chinese vetos half of those suffering will be gassed or refugees by the time they get proper representation.
Lol No.

What you're complaining about has nothing to do with representation. It has to do with ship balancing being a slow process.


AttentionYES
I expect the HI SEC represtative to demand a sped up the ship balancing process like the NULL centric CSM sped up the Wardeck dogpiling process and UI fixes which both got immediately implemented after the CSM summit!
Just like they have had demanded the Titan ship balancing & bam it too was implemented
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#811 - 2012-09-05 04:20:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
DarthNefarius wrote:
AttentionYES
I expect the HI SEC represtative to demand a sped up the ship balancing process like the NULL centric CSM sped up the Wardeck dogpiling process and UI fixes which both got immediately implemented after the CSM summit!
…except that a highsec rep makes absolutely zero difference in that case because it's an inherently slow process unlike the other two issues. Moreover, a highsec rep isn't needed to begin with since it's a universal issue.

So the problem here still isn't representation — it's your ridiculously unrealistic expectations and your lack of perspective.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#812 - 2012-09-05 04:21:34 UTC
Historical Research Advocate wrote:
i came for ping pong, found alt poster working all four of his sock puppets

You know you're losing an argument when you have to accuse the opposition of sockpuppetry.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#813 - 2012-09-05 04:24:24 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Relying on CCP's representation is like Syrian citizens relying on the UN to help them out in their civil war. By the time they get past the russian/chinese vetos half of those suffering will be gassed or refugees by the time they get proper representation.

Now now, it's not like we'd try to pretend the gankers are actually miners attacking one another and then provide humanitarian small T2 blasters to their hull by means of the Aid Catalysts.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#814 - 2012-09-05 04:25:34 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Relying on CCP's representation is like Syrian citizens relying on the UN to help them out in their civil war. By the time they get past the russian/chinese vetos half of those suffering will be gassed or refugees by the time they get proper representation.

Now now, it's not like we'd try to pretend the gankers are actually miners attacking one another and then provide humanitarian small T2 blasters to their hull by means of the Aid Catalysts.

Solution: Nicolas Cage sells them 1400mm fit Tornados.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#815 - 2012-09-05 04:25:54 UTC
Tippia wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
AttentionYES
I expect the HI SEC represtative to demand a sped up the ship balancing process like the NULL centric CSM sped up the Wardeck dogpiling process and UI fixes which both got immediately implemented after the CSM summit!
…except that a highsec rep would make absolutely zero difference because it's an inherently slow process unlike the other two issues. Moreover, a highsec rep isn't needed to begin with since it's a universal issue.

So the problem here still isn't representation — it's your ridiculously unrealistic expectations and your lack of perspective.


So all HI SEC issues are universal issues Tippia and don't require representation? Keep drinking your own koolaide Roll

An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#816 - 2012-09-05 04:29:03 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Relying on CCP's representation is like Syrian citizens relying on the UN to help them out in their civil war. By the time they get past the russian/chinese vetos half of those suffering will be gassed or refugees by the time they get proper representation.

Now now, it's not like we'd try to pretend the gankers are actually miners attacking one another and then provide humanitarian small T2 blasters to their hull by means of the Aid Catalysts.

Solution: Nicolas Cage sells them 1400mm fit Tornados.

So which side is fighting outnumbered and being overwhelmed by the evil oppressors here?

I think we need to ship some arms to the noble catalyst pilots, being repressed by CONCORD, a well known force that shoots peaceful protesters.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#817 - 2012-09-05 04:30:41 UTC
Tippia wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
AttentionYES
I expect the HI SEC represtative to demand a sped up the ship balancing process like the NULL centric CSM sped up the Wardeck dogpiling process and UI fixes which both got immediately implemented after the CSM summit!
…except that a highsec rep makes absolutely zero difference in that case because it's an inherently slow process unlike the other two issues. Moreover, a highsec rep isn't needed to begin with since it's a universal issue.

So the problem here still isn't representation — it's your ridiculously unrealistic expectations and your lack of perspective.

Ah yes, the wardec dogpiling. Should have left that in really, it was a wonderful way to punish anyone who ever wardecs.

And I guess the highsec rep really cares about UI unlike us silly people who just happily jump the titan when you're supposed to bridge, or stuff like that.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#818 - 2012-09-05 04:31:33 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
So all HI SEC issues are universal issues Tippia and don't require representation?
The only issue that's truly unique to highsec is NPE, with wardecs and crimewatch following some way behind being kind-of-almost unique (but they exist and have consequences beyond highsec as well).

…and either way, no special highsec representation is needed to deal with them — in fact, having only a highsec perspective rather equates to suffering from tunnel-vision.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#819 - 2012-09-05 04:36:47 UTC
Tippia wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
So all HI SEC issues are universal issues Tippia and don't require representation?
The only issue that's truly unique to highsec is NPE, with wardecs and crimewatch following some way behind being kind-of-almost unique (but they exist and have consequences beyond highsec as well).

…and either way, no special highsec representation is needed to deal with them — in fact, having only a highsec perspective rather equates to suffering from tunnel-vision.

Maybe the highseccers would like CCP and other parties to the process to have such tunnel-vision.

More CONCORD buffs would sure be nice.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Tragedy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#820 - 2012-09-05 04:46:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tragedy
OP I thought you rage quit when they nerfed incursions? Yet here you are whining some more. That's all I see out if you. Thank you. People like you who get so emo about nonsense make me appreciate my already great life even more.


Edit autocorrect is a basturd