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St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-05-20 14:37:24 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
kitty poo


Never touch kitty poo, by the way, there's a type of parasite egg that can move from the poo to your brain. I saw it on TV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis Big smile
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-05-20 14:38:26 UTC
Ziranda Hakuli wrote:
this thread again worded what looks like the same old one that got squashed cause some idiot has no idea how to read the lore and why it is there and it is not in WHs?

Please biomass the toon now and save yourself the headaches down the road


You realize the game is made to be fun and then the lore is written around that, not the other way around. The lore doesn't actually make sense the way it is, if gates record everyone who comes through and puts them in local why do people that jump into system via other methods than gate show up in local (jump drive, medclone jump, etc)? Doesn't go with the lore. Maybe you should actually learn the lore yourself before you come to the forums being a douche.

I am so in support of this idea. Local chat is making PvP more stagnant than any other mechanic in Eve. In a sandbox that is advertised as hardcore and unforgiving I don't see why we need an auto infallible intel tool. In a game of skill like eve, scouting should take more skill than the ability to count heads in local. If you have a roam, and you don't use proper scouts a larger fleet should be able to gank and kill you. Now days you don't need proper scouts because you can see a local spike clear as day. Local chat makes pvp'ers lazy and unskillful. We shouldn't have to live in a WH to not have our hands held in Eve. If I wanted someone to hold my hand I would play WoW, yet I am hear so CCP please stop holding our hands.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#23 - 2012-05-20 14:44:04 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Get rid of local, all secs. It fixes almost everything. You would have to work to locate a target. You would have to work to avoid a target. There would be risk in high sec. There would be risk in all secs.

Freighters could be caught during a war dec. Freighters could get through during a war dec.

You would still have Concord retaliation in high sec. You could still be camped, though if you break the camp it would be harder to hunt you down. Certainly no worse that what we have now but with compelling gameplay.

It would solve cloaky camps people complain about. It would give a point to cloaks of which people complain about.

It would make neutral alts almost irrelevant. Though not 100%. It would certainly make playing with one account a lot less of a disadvantage. Sure you might lose a few alt account subs, but you would gain many more subs by having more compelling gameplay. What good is a scout profession when they're revealed as soon as they enter system?

The changes the expansion are bringing aren't going to revitalize low sec or null sec and its certainly not going to promote or fuel war. Quite the opposite.

The devs and the playerbase talk a lot about EVE being hardcore, but as of yet i'm not really seeing the hardcore aspect to the game.

The game is a boring campfest. Removing local removes that to a large degree.

To my ultra Orthodox carebear players, uncle Caliphy isn't throwing you under the bus. The threats you worry about occuring with this change would actually be resolvable by a merc corporation. If you are decced and you hire a merc the merc cannot sneak up on the enemy with everything displayed for them. They may be able to make your tormentors life a little more difficult but in most cases can't force a fight under those conditions. With no local they could. If you are camped by a griefdec and you hire a reasonably sized merc to help you the griefer will never see them coming. It's win/win.

Even null entry points would be camped far less. Lets see the thirty man bubble camp consistently do it when a 150 man roaming gang warps in on them and they never see it coming.

Local is holding EVE back. Period. Get rid of it and let EVE become great.


Local in null sec should be removed and that is all.

..
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-05-20 18:02:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Karn Dulake wrote:
I understand completely

And as my current wartarget you sat on a gate two jumps from me while you obvious alt lolled around trying to find me.

The Vindy was not bad but you should rethink the fitting on the tengu.


And as you are currently docked up in a station as im missioning i started to wonder if you will ever come out to play.

And you wardec me my Sociopathic friend


Yeah right. You logged out all yesterday. Talk is cheap sir. Your killboard shows exactly what you're made of. But don't you worry my killers aren't going to let up. I'll be logged in 23/7 for the duration of us hunting you. Welcome to EVE offline. You tell the story yourself, we were coming after you. Aside from you, i've not seen one member log on from your 8 man alliance.

You're by yourself man, you can't mission in peace no more. I know it sucks.
adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#25 - 2012-05-20 18:13:24 UTC
Title... "fuel war" etc... called marketing... they did a war dec fail change... now its fuel for war or whatever... called MARKETING...

Also lol @ no local... what do you idiots not understand about most of eve players are IN hs... TBH the only FIX is to remove low and null rofl...
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#26 - 2012-05-20 18:22:12 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
This is the 500th post like this I've read.



Does he win a prize?

Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel **IG OOPE **
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#27 - 2012-05-20 18:22:48 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:

Caliph Muhammed wrote:

It would solve cloaky camps people complain about. It would give a point to cloaks people complain about.

Uncloak aliegned, tap bomb, warp to safety. No time to get reinforcements on grid to help or even lock targets.

Hurray for 100% Safe uncounterable attacks.


forget for a moment that bombs glide at a fairly slow speed for 30k before exploding....
more than enough time for an aligned ship to hit the warp button
Niko Takahashi
Yoshitomi Group
#28 - 2012-05-20 18:23:46 UTC
Fully support the op.
Local is for chicken *****.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#29 - 2012-05-20 18:25:47 UTC
Luv2chat in local

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-05-20 18:38:12 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Luv2chat in local


Good point, so take the OP instead as "showing up in local completely voluntary for all secs".
Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#31 - 2012-05-20 20:08:23 UTC
Gogela wrote:
I have balls. They are on your chin. Big smilePirate


Thought they were raisins and ate 'em.... natural mistake. P

"If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."  -  James 315 - aka - the miner bumper

Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-05-20 20:12:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
of course the fact that you're not getting ratter KMs is most certainly not because you're awful at PvP, you're the best pvper in the universe and nothing holds you back except that big bad local window

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Scien Inkunen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-05-20 22:27:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Scien Inkunen
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Get rid of local, all secs. It fixes almost everything. You would have to work to locate a target. You would have to work to avoid a target. There would be risk in high sec. There would be risk in all secs.

........

The game is a boring campfest. Removing local removes that to a large degree.

.......... Get rid of it and let EVE become great.



Quit.

And careful with the balls - ship seats are not to comfortable.

Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life !
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#34 - 2012-05-20 23:31:41 UTC
Technically you don't really "grow" balls as if to create balls that were not previously there though I have known women who have "honorary balls" awarded for heroic deeds in RL.

I can see where the OP is going, but don't think things will get there.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Duvida
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-05-21 01:48:32 UTC
So, what's up with W-space? I thought that's where the 'no-local' pvp was?
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-05-21 02:12:18 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Ziranda Hakuli wrote:
this thread again worded what looks like the same old one that got squashed cause some idiot has no idea how to read the lore and why it is there and it is not in WHs?

Please biomass the toon now and save yourself the headaches down the road


Lore lol. The game is a snoozefest. HTFU. What headache? Boredom doesn't bring headaches. It brings nausea. Also, alt-sh.it poasting reciting nerd memes is for terribaddies. Proof in this thread. The main ones retorting snarky have killboards that smell of kitty poo. I won't mention names but you know who you are. Peace to those with constructive criticism.

Nerfing local will *not* work until they change static routes through null sec, which they have in WH space. With static routes it just becomes a matter of parking an alt on a gate (w or w/o bubbles...)

Little more work for no appreciable gain.

CCP have already said that some kind of change to local is in the works. Where it's at in the production que, I have no idea.

Not everyone with a great kill-board is a "good-poster", and not all those with a poor kill-board are "bad-posters" - it's the mind behind the keyboard that is important, and killboards don't measure that.


Just fyi...

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-05-21 02:49:28 UTC
Asuri Kinnes wrote:
CCP have already said that some kind of change to local is in the works. Where it's at in the production que, I have no idea.


CCP has a reputation for hamfisting almost every change initially and leaving the fix on the backburner for several expansion cycles, so you can see why some of us have serious reservations about changing local

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#38 - 2012-05-21 02:59:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Peter Raptor
Keep local for eva, save people's fingers from breaking cos they tapped dscan a quintillion times every time they play for 5 minutes. What a ludicrous game eve would become with out local.

And PLEASE dont suggest some great new dscanner to replace local, cos then you'll just get local back under a new name, defeats the purpose utterly Roll

Evelopedia; 

The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion  †  
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2012-05-21 03:02:25 UTC
wormholers seem to believe that spamming the dscan button is the height of gameplay in eve online vOv

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-05-21 03:04:06 UTC
Every time someone says to grow some balls I think of one of three things:

"Lol, video games require ~balls~"

Or I picture myself with four or more testicles.

Or I picture a vagina with some testicles.

None of these are pleasant thoughts. Please stop.

Hello, hello again.