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Doesn't matter. They won't be here untill after it doesn't matter anymore

also look at the worthless hisec veldspar miner talking down to his betters

know your place son

again look at the worthless forum alt trying to talk down to a superior person

Lolminers.

I used to mine once. On day one. Then I went to sleep, and realised that mining was not designed for actual players, it was designed for bots. True story.

the correct way to get ecm drones nerfed:
1. all afk hulks deploy 5x EC-600 on aggressive.
2. all non-alpha-based gankers whine on because destroyers will always get jammed
3. a ganker with sufficient dev affiliation will also whine
4. ecm drones fixed

get to it, brave miners!

Suicide ganking is fair as long as it follows the rules and is not ********.

Now the tricks about how to circumvent CONCORD are out of the bag.

- Everybody with -10 can pilot a ship anywhere inside an hi sec system (except at stations) without issues.

This is like if in RL somebody would only be checked at a town entrance and then let free to slaugther anybody afterwards.
And then free to leave said town, just has to use a quick car.

- Everybody can kill anything without losing the gank ship as long as they board the appropriate ship. Was this original CONCORD intended mechanic?

Is this emergent gameplay or just a cheat?

- Everybody can still kill anything with T2 guns and choose - if he feels good (read: he fears the banhammer) - to just let CONCORD kill an empty hull.

Is this emergent gameplay or just hiding a cheat?



Every bot killed has 10 ship replacements. Just look at the killboards to see the same bot being killed up to twice a day yet tomorrow is there. Because RMT endless ISK > losses.

On the contrary, the typical lone casual guy will be just pushed off.

End result: adverse selection.

The bots prosper and have ALL the market free for them, while the real miners lose both ships and market.


A mechanic that favors botting over legit players should never exist, it should ALWAYS be convenient to be legit.
Else what will players do?

They will also join the "emergent" game play and join the RMT.

I lol´ed.

Are you ranting because there are no defenceless hulks to gank anymore? Or are you ranting cause you have to pay +5 isk/unit trit?

Protip: Continue mass ganking miners (and mass banhammering bots from ccp´s side) and watch trit go up to +6 iskies. Good thing!

You can gank miners out of belts perfectly fine with -10. All you need is an alt that moves the catalysts for you to a SS.

Confirmed, they are not bots! Its just not possible for the exhumers to get away when they land at 0, and tackle. The situation seems to be 2 corporations or 1 corporation with npc corp alts. One provide the warpins and ships, while the corporation in this case goes for the kills. Not much to do for these industrials atm. If they move, they will be followed. Such is the game mechanics. I assume that this will end in these people quitting the game, as there is no game in just sitting in a station for industrial affiliated people. You can't defend against this type of ganking. The only solution would to either move into lower security or a wormhole. But I doubt that will happen, as many people don't have the rl time for such a commitment.

Btw, im not part of the gankers or the miners in the area, just a observer

D-scan and keeping an eye on local would be the only solution. Though from observation, the corp in question sits afk in a staion most of the time. So local isnt much help. When you get them on D-scn its usually to late, by the time you iniated warp they will have you scrambled. I doubt most of these miners would get any armed ships to standby while they mine. To do so, they would have to sit literally beside the guy thats mining, and who in the rigth mind would do that in highsec? Setting up the ships 100% tank wouldnt be much help :P Most of the systems around the area in question is 0.5 and 0.6. they could move back to the 1.0 rookie systems. But I think most would quit, since thats pretty ****.