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( ABSTAIN at very bottom) CSM is only a meta game with ramifications - other options when voting.

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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#81 - 2012-02-16 01:32:44 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
No, replace it with a system informed by strict meritocracy.

And, upon election/appointment, all delegates must immediately biomass any forum-alts!

let us entertain your stupid idea for a minute

please, person who certainly is not mentally disabled, elaborate on your strict meritocracy and how merit shall be measured and allocated
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#82 - 2012-02-16 01:37:07 UTC
Retar Aveymone wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
No, replace it with a system informed by strict meritocracy.

And, upon election/appointment, all delegates must immediately biomass any forum-alts!

let us entertain your stupid idea for a minute

please, person who certainly is not mentally disabled, elaborate on your strict meritocracy and how merit shall be measured and allocated


Sense of humour:

Work on that, pls, kthxbai.

Ni.
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#83 - 2012-02-16 01:39:05 UTC
my friend, you are breaking the conceit of you not being mentally disabled for the purposes of this exercise, please try to respect the process
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#84 - 2012-02-16 01:42:14 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
[quote=Lyris Nairn]
Overall, though, he and his--or as some of you would seemingly have it, He and His--are just not that relevant to my interests, never was, but I find his attention-whoring/delusions of grandeur entertaining, just as I always did.

Are you trying to insinuate that Alexander Gianturco has a BDSM relationship wish some of us? Shocked

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#85 - 2012-02-16 01:43:03 UTC
Retar Aveymone wrote:
my friend, you are breaking the conceit of you not being mentally disabled for the purposes of this exercise, please try to respect the process

I'll take "Famous Titties," for five hundred.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#86 - 2012-02-16 02:33:16 UTC
I can't shake the feeling that these people are furries.
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-02-16 02:42:40 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
is this the actual aspie from last year? anyway, in a position where persuasion matters, charisma is aptitude.

sorry about your foreveralone


Case in point.

You are just a repellent, loud, up-its'-own-arse little tool who's outlived its' service-life, and doesn't want to face its' impending obsolescence.

Bye!

I can haz ur stuffs?


are you roleplaying, idgi

~hi~
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#88 - 2012-02-16 02:43:45 UTC
no-names and npc alts posting YOU ARE IRRELEVANT is one of the more entertaining parts of the csm cycle

~hi~
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2012-02-16 02:50:28 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera, are you a bat trapped in an aspie's body?
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#90 - 2012-02-16 02:56:52 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
is this the actual aspie from last year? anyway, in a position where persuasion matters, charisma is aptitude.

sorry about your foreveralone


Case in point.

You are just a repellent, loud, up-its'-own-arse little tool who's outlived its' service-life, and doesn't want to face its' impending obsolescence.

Bye!

I can haz ur stuffs?

Of what is this a case in point, other than your inability to use apostrophes correctly?


Oh, is "its'" incorrect? I've seen it both with and without the apostrophe quite frequently, but if so...hey, kudos to you, space-friend, for catching my mistake. (You know what a stickler I can normally be for that kind of thing, after all Blink)

Ni.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#91 - 2012-02-16 02:58:26 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
no-names and npc alts posting YOU ARE IRRELEVANT is one of the more entertaining parts of the csm cycle


This is my main--now that you mention it, though, who are all these generic Goon-fluffers popping up here, anyway?

Ni.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#92 - 2012-02-16 02:59:21 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
is this the actual aspie from last year? anyway, in a position where persuasion matters, charisma is aptitude.

sorry about your foreveralone


Case in point.

You are just a repellent, loud, up-its'-own-arse little tool who's outlived its' service-life, and doesn't want to face its' impending obsolescence.

Bye!

I can haz ur stuffs?


are you roleplaying, idgi


Yeah, I'll just bet you don't.


Ni.
The Mittani
State War Academy
Caldari State
#93 - 2012-02-16 03:09:45 UTC
you /are/ roleplaying


how adorable!

~hi~
Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#94 - 2012-02-16 03:51:59 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
is this the actual aspie from last year? anyway, in a position where persuasion matters, charisma is aptitude.

sorry about your foreveralone


Case in point.

You are just a repellent, loud, up-its'-own-arse little tool who's outlived its' service-life, and doesn't want to face its' impending obsolescence.

Bye!

I can haz ur stuffs?


its***************************************************************************************************************************


I'm sorry, I refuse to vote or support anyone too stupid to use simple grammar correctly.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#95 - 2012-02-16 04:00:09 UTC
Sverige Pahis wrote:
Lyrrashae wrote:
The Mittani wrote:
is this the actual aspie from last year? anyway, in a position where persuasion matters, charisma is aptitude.

sorry about your foreveralone


Case in point.

You are just a repellent, loud, up-its'-own-arse little tool who's outlived its' service-life, and doesn't want to face its' impending obsolescence.

Bye!

I can haz ur stuffs?


its***************************************************************************************************************************


I'm sorry, I refuse to vote or support anyone too stupid to use simple grammar correctly.


Who said I was running? I'd flirted with the idea of doing so, true, but then sanity re-asserted itself.

Ni.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#96 - 2012-02-16 04:01:34 UTC
The Mittani wrote:
you /are/ roleplaying


how adorable!


Will u b my space-fwiend, Massa Mittiez?

[/sarcasm]

Ni.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#97 - 2012-02-16 04:47:36 UTC
Lyrrashae do you prefer d10 dice pool systems or d20 systems for your role playing games?

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Doctor Eezee
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#98 - 2012-02-16 05:02:39 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:

Goons love to post. It's what we do. More than we enjoy playing video games, or reading comic books, or talking about bit coins, we love to post. We just can't get enough. .


Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Stop the Clock! Posting about Bitcoins is the best thing ever. Even the hilariously bad Xenuria and D3 threads don't come close to even the mildest of Bitcoin discussions.

Anyway, since I get payed billions by the alliance every month to post in various threads on this forum:

I also think that people are stupid when they have imo wrong rationalisations for whatever they believe in. That stands for people that are religious, people that vote Republican etc.

Still I don't whine about it, I try to change it by providing a better alternative. Most of the candidacys on this forum are straight-up ********. They don't have any position whatsoever (just look at D3, he runs solely on the basis that he doesn't like goons), or have stupid ideas (Xenuria, who coincidently also hates goons).

Of course I vote for who I think can best represent my oppinions in the game, why wouldn't I? And it's absolutely not out fault, that most people are too stupid to see that they could easily select csm members that represent their interests.
If you want no goons on the CSM, get people to vote.

"My rule is: If you meet the weakest vessel, attack; if it is a vessel equal to yours, attack; and if it is stronger than yours, also attack..." - Admiral Stepan O. Makarov
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#99 - 2012-02-16 05:06:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Lyrrashae
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Lyrrashae do you prefer d10 dice pool systems or d20 systems for your role playing games?


d20, all the way!

E: Now where did I just put mine, anyway?

Ni.
Boris Lachenkov
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#100 - 2012-02-16 08:07:42 UTC
Go to sleep, wake up and see thread has progressed by 3 pages
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:


(I tend to {snip} quote people in order to show where I am directing my response.)

I can agree that being able to communicate effectively is one skill that CSM would need.
However, as it stands, CCP are getting a group of people best suited for public relations not those who would would be able to filter information and give them the best over all direction.

"Giving players what they want is exactly what you do not want."

Look at each of the CSM candidates. They have personal agendas and they are saying what will appeal to as many people as possible. "Hehe, he is funny I will vote for him." "That one wants the same win button as I do!"

They are short sighted and won't be helping to arbitrate with CCP what is best for the game in general.


So are you saying that no-one in CSM 6 could aptly give advice/criticisms outside of their usual play style? Trebor couldn't talk about running low-sec incursions because he has never done them (No Idea if he has or not, examples are fun), White tree could never give advice about being an Englishman because he's from Ireland, etc. You seem to be complaining that the current CSM are akin to frat boys with no experiences and no ability to "Filter information". I'd dispute this I has have yet to see any modules that allow freighter pilots to scan the other side of a gate, no 'mini' ships or "Heavy mining" ships so I would say their ability to filter information is working perfectly fine.

Though it seems you are more complaining that either your specific side is not adequately represented, in which case I must seriously reiterate the fact that the CSMs are there to talk about all aspects of EVE at the moment in an objective manner. Not to just sit there and say "No, sorry. I'm a null-sec CSM, I can't talk about low-sec incursions or mining operations."

That's the trouble with the people not the system. The people are the ones going "LOL LOOK AT THE GOON TEARS. +1 MEJT." instead of wondering if they will actually have the cognitive capacity to look beyond their own experiences and step out of their shoes to deal with a problem.

I don't see how any other system would help in this situation anyway. Would you like CCP to administer an IQ test? Ask for several hypothetical solutions before their accept your application? Would you like 1 representative from null-sec, 1 from low-sec, etc, etc ,etc.

In any case I agree with some of the goons in this thread, if you want to have a hand in the change in EVE and contribute to the over development of the game get a coalition going. The alternate delegates (who still have access to the forums/skype/etc) won with a fraction of the votes last year. The lowest was Darius with 921, that isn't a huge number but it's enough to get you onto the alternate delegation squad (Funky music plays). You have a year from roughly now to begin building a base of supporters, learning all the other parts of EVE (So that you can adequately represent them all and understand their various problems) and then put in your application. That's what I plan to do, BORIS LACHENKOV FOR CSM 8.

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