Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Personally, I think if people want to know my fits, they should have to scan my wreck, at the very least.

However, kill boards are motivating idiots to farm points. This means they are killing a lot of ships that can't shoot back or newbies.
Which is hitting CCP in the pocket. Less newbies, less $$$.

So, break the kill mail function. Just have Losses and who shot you.



I am suggesting that:

• High sec + T1 frigate, rookie ships, capsules or T1 cruiser = loss mail only
• Anywhere + Miner or indy, etc = loss mail only
• If you want to see a fit you have to scan for it.
• All these losses and kills come out when they API verify on a kill board.

Middle road

Everything else produces kill mails. If it is a good ship, not usually flown by newbies and can shoot back, then they can have their kill mails. (... and should probably buy them for Aur! )

You see, the killmails are the only way of keeping track of "score" in EVE ISK warfare. Removing them would remove a huge part of warfare of any sort.

Now, you say that people "farm points" by killing defenseless ships. I'm just gonna go on a limb here and say you have no idea how killboards actually work. Points are awarded for killing dangerous ship, often lots of points for killing class-up ships such as Cruiser vs Battleship and similar. Sitting in your overtanked Maelstrom, tanking sentries and popping the occasional hauler that jumps through nets you about 1 point a kill. Congrats.

...or why not charge the player to get the killmail.

"You have 3 unclaimed killmails!" - Claim 3 x 500AUR

ops saying and i agree that points for km's dont mean anything ingame.

But km's mean alot when it comes to metagaming.

What types of ships some one flys, where they fly & who they fly with,
that's the kind of information alot of people don't like to give out.

That makes sense but doesn't stop newbie farming.

Loss mail only + ( API only posts - for kill boards) can help with that.

Your idea threads are really bad.

Interesting interpretation.

But really, stop posting.

Players getting killmails isn't the problem

It's players farming killmails with gate camps, newbie baiting, miner, and missioner baiting, and suicide ganks.

There needs to be a change to the killmail system that would suggest to players to either wardec, go to low, or go to null.

It also needs to be changed to suggest to players to actually take risks in pvp, instead of just gate camping right off high sec.

The only suggestion that I can offer up to fix a small portion of this is no killmails are given in high sec for kills committed without a wardec.

This is to fight off suicide ganks, newbie baiting, missioner baiting, and miner baiting.

null sec is anything goes so any and all kills of any type should count.

Low sec is the true issue to fit into this. Perhaps only so many mail are given at a certain point during a certain duration.

In other words, if you're camping a gate, you'll only get so many killmails of the period of, lets say a week. If you kill more than so many ships at a point in a system, (you're camping the gate), then you will not be given any further killmails until you relocate and will not receive killmails while at that specific location again until the cycle runs up.

Do you want privacy? Possibly like the contracts system? Meaning, a private contract is kept between parties and no others can see the contents. Public is public.

So, before releasing your info to a public killboard, your settings can either allow or disallow public viewing killmails; only involved parties would see contents. Is that what you were going for with this idea?

Agreed, killmails are worth nothing to the players but bragging, and often times, it makes you look more pathetic

You were able to beat a missioner with a pvp ship? wow, that's almost like ratting, NOT CHALLENGING

you were able to kill a drake with a gate camp of 20 or more people? You're so good at nothing...

Point being, the killmail system actually messes up the sand box game play of eve.

There are players who bait, suicide, and camp solely for a killmail, which kills the sand box, because without killmails, that may not have happened.

Look, if you wanna brag about a kill, then make a kill that's worth filming. 3 frigs against a drake, worth filming.

5 bs's against a super carrier, worth filming.

23 ships with insta lock, scram, web, jam, damp, pop, and pod against 1 drake isn't worth filming.

Basically, NO MORE KILLMAIL SYSTEM. If ya wanna brag about a kill then make sure it's something worth watching.. Otherwise your bragging means crap to me and everyone else in eve.