Jita Park Speakers Corner

Well, but then, FW is a niche within a niche, and Hans may perfectly leave hisec outside of the CSM. Not very thrilling, WiS-like.

Be noted that my main interest is to find a reason to play EVE doing something i didn't did before, and so far there is no feature that interests me. Bounty hunting may be the thing closest to my initial interests if it ever gets to harm griefers as much as griefers harm everyone else, but, otoh, WiS people was cheated by CCP and they shouldn't get off with it that easily.

Very few communities were as fractured as the faction war crowd. Hans managed to find the commonality and propose things that pretty much everyone agrees on.

Yet considering the views of others in low sec and several in null, I have no doubt that the majority of his vote will come from outside faction war. His goals for low sec will resonate well beyond faction war.

The last csm did some things well but when it came to low sec ideas they were mostly silent. Judging from the few comments that did make it into the minutes, silence is the best we can hope for from them. The mindset is just too different.

Most of the things that most non-faction war low sec players dislike about faction war Hans, and fw players themselves, also dislike. So even the things he addresses within faction war will be big pluses for those who don't do faction war.

Moreover I think there will be lots of null sec players who are tired of the slow pace and would love to see ccp work toward the goals he sets forth. The general foundations of sov null sec require a certain mechanics (slow ass timers, blobs etc.) that yield allot of boring game play. Players invested allot of time to acquire those areas so before they lose them they need ample opportunity to defend. This is understandable, but it still means allot of boring down time.


Low sec and npc null sec are pretty much free from that burden. Things can happen faster, be more dynamic and action packed. I think there are allot of people in all areas of space that would like ccp ot work toward that.

hans buddy,

i was all set to +1 you based on your previously stated positions on FW. that was until i read your manifesto. man there is some out there ideas in there that are just plain crazy.

i'd also tone down the "i'm just 2" and other commentary that alienates you from the "bitter veterens" who have been here since the start of eve. the ****** CSMs have cost us billions in the last 2 releases and the last thing many of us want is dangerous changes applied by people yet to experience "everything" that eve has to offer.

personally i want to see small steady changes to the way things work, not wholesale changes that again, cost billions of isk and hundreds of hours in wasted skill points. some common, don't turn low-sec-into-0.0, make eve simpler and faster, get more fights and kills, sense. you may also want to tone down the RP a bit. sure it makes it interesting to read but "half" of FW doesn't need to be reminded that we'd rather shoot you than vote for you.

best of luck and i'll patiently watch and see how this unfolds before casting a vote.

btw. an idea that may help out your quest re: mining would be to take mining and make it more profitable and interesting through mission arcs. either mining the $*%# of roids or killing 0.0 like freight trains. have them available in hi-sec and low-sec so it also feeds the pirate eco-system.

+1 for Hans.

*resists urge to say something mean*

You have my sword + 1

I don't even play FW, but you have my +1 and vote!! Good Luck!!

Thanks for the criticism zero! It’s going to get real boring, real fast if this thread turns into a giant Hans love-fest. And the voters wouldn’t learn anything as a result.

I should take a moment first off to clarify that my “manifesto” is intended to give those that know nothing about me at all, a primer on the types of ideas I think have merit, as well as to get to know my attitudes about certain types game play. There will be plenty of time for in-depth discussion of each issue, I just wanted to catch people up that weren’t familiar with me or my principles. Fire away if you saw something you thought was "crazy".

One of the core values I hope to bring to the CSM is humility and a willingness to admit when we don’t have the answers. I make no pretense about knowing it all, and will always defer to expert opinion when I realize I’m out of my element. The bottom line is that the current council is already composed of so-called “bittervets”, and in some cases this has proven to be a liability, not an asset.

I’ll pick on Seleene this round, though by the election I'm sure I'll have something to say about all my opponents in the race (thats how these things work). Seleene is most certainly an EvE veteran, to the core - serving in all three capacities: As a player, as a CSM, and as a CCP developer. The problem is, he's still speaking about issues that he clearly doesn't understand. Take some of his recent responses to a questionnaire:

"I think that FW and null-sec sov could, and probably should, have some commonalities with regard to capture mechanics"

"Any proper iteration on FW is going to require a fundamental re-work of how players interact with NPC factions."

Seriously?? If I were Seleene, and wasn't particularly active in Faction Warfare, I would decline to comment rather than just make statements that show a clear lack of understanding about the players that engage in that activity. If this is the kind of "bittervet" expertise you feel belongs on the CSM, than by all means vote for the candidate with the most years under their belt.

One of the reasons I'm running in this race is to bring a sense of humanism and respect to the council with regards to working on features that may not be well represented by the constituents that elected the council members. As I stated in my document, I will continue to refuse to make definitive "this is how it should be" statements about things I'm not an expert on.

I think naivete about a particular issue in EvE is not something that is limited to younger players, clearly experienced pilots can sometimes tunnel vision with regards to a fix in a way that ends up hurting the game.



I know not every single militia member is aware yet of the work we've been doing, because most of it has gone on behind the scenes, so I still get some skepticism about "will those guys actually work with us?" And my answer always is, "they already are."

I don't ever intentionally role play, I meant what I said about uniting the militias and saving the feature. Those that support me even amongst my "enemies" understand that no matter how much we want to fight each other, we may have a whole host of issues standing in the way of that if CCP moves forward with their "massive overhaul" of FW without consulting the community. I've talked with countless players in all four militias that have downright said they will unsubscribe if CCP implements even a portion of some of the rather insane ideas discussed at the summit. So yes, it really is this important to speak up now, so that we have a say in the future of the feature we all participate in.

I have yet to meet a single Faction Warfare pilot, even those that role play, come up to me and say "I'm not backing you because you're a filthy slave." For all of us, the work to be done with the CSM election has very little to do with what goes on in the low sec warzones on Tranquility.

As for mining, in the long run I favor mining changes that involve more movement, both within the belts, as well as between the belts. I think mining should be less sitting and watching lazers cycle, and more about maximizing one's yield through careful piloting and searching out the most lucrative caches of rock to chew on. Missions could indeed be a great part of this. I think we need to see more depletion and respawning, more dynamic resource distribution, and more yield out of each lazer cycle, so that pilots can have fun with the adventure of searching for treasure rather than falling asleep while waiting for one's cargohold to fill.

All of these things would indeed involve some "massive overhauls" I'm afraid, so there's always an exception to "simple is best". I think the primary questions future CSM members should ask themselves when discussing any feature should be, "Have we spoken with the community that these changes affect directly?" as well as "Does this feature REALLY require an overhaul to be improved, or is there a simpler fix we may have overlooked?"

Fine, then I hate you.

Seriously though, Hans is a smart candidate, especially if you care about FW at all.

I'm Galdornae and I approved this candidate.

I cant beleive im saying this.

You have my vote