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Dare i ask about Gallente/hybrid balancing?

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Count Austheim
Redemption Denied
#21 - 2011-09-16 22:42:36 UTC
Gallente ships are green.

If this ships a´rockin, then im strangling someone....

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#22 - 2011-09-16 22:47:12 UTC
Count Austheim wrote:
Gallente ships are green.


I'd say it's more of a Feldgrau.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Digital Messiah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2011-09-17 21:20:36 UTC
Ten topics on MT will and have been answered before a dev will dare to even consider posting in here.

Something clever

Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
#24 - 2011-09-17 21:50:06 UTC
Unfortunaly CCP will pretend the problem does not exist.

One of the reasons is, that it would indirectly mean the devs responsible for the balance have buffed missiles, projectile weapons and laser to much.

They could start by taking back the old resistance nerfs to shield and armor. Shields get 10% more explosive resistance and armor have +10% EM resistance again. Lasers would still be effective but would have a harder time against omni-tanked armor ships and minmatar projectile weapons would have more trouble with shield-ships. I would also recommend to make changes to EM ammo so that it deals more explo/kinetic and less EM to bring projectiles again in line with other weapons.

....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced.

Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2011-09-17 21:50:29 UTC
Digital Messiah wrote:
Ten topics on MT will and have been answered before a dev will dare to even consider posting in here.


It would seem that way. I think we can assume the silence to mean there are no plans.
Joss56
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2011-09-17 22:00:09 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
the jove felt sorry for gallente having such fail weapons for so long and are going to sell gallente some jovian plasma weapons.

plasma beams (long range) and plasma bursts (short range)

at least one would wish this Lol



I want that !
Joss56
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-09-17 22:07:34 UTC
Deviana Sevidon wrote:
Unfortunaly CCP will pretend the problem does not exist.

One of the reasons is, that it would indirectly mean the devs responsible for the balance have buffed missiles, projectile weapons and laser to much.

They could start by taking back the old resistance nerfs to shield and armor. Shields get 10% more explosive resistance and armor have +10% EM resistance again. Lasers would still be effective but would have a harder time against omni-tanked armor ships and minmatar projectile weapons would have more trouble with shield-ships. I would also recommend to make changes to EM ammo so that it deals more explo/kinetic and less EM to bring projectiles again in line with other weapons.



Well when you use numbers and only believe on those then you are blind to anything else.

So do graphics show hybrids being a good dps weapon system? -quite sure

Do raw numbers show blasters are omgfkingpown? - very sure

Do those graphics care about real game conditions? -impossible

Hybrids shoot stuff and kill stuff so, for them everything goes like intended.

For the meanwhile train minmatar, autocanons & artillery. Start having fun
Taedrin
Virtues Corporation
#28 - 2011-09-17 22:54:03 UTC
David Grogan wrote:
the jove felt sorry for gallente having such fail weapons for so long and are going to sell gallente some jovian plasma weapons.

plasma beams (long range) and plasma bursts (short range)

at least one would wish this Lol


Would it be cruel for me to ask that the Gallente experience being fail for as long as Amarr did before they got buffed?
Amarr Menza
Gob Grand Father
#29 - 2011-09-18 05:42:28 UTC
what is Gallente?

Never heard of them
DarkAegix
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2011-09-18 05:55:36 UTC
Amarr Menza wrote:
what is Gallente?

Never heard of them

Frenchmen who compensate for their girlishness by hull tanking, because "real men hull tank".
Their weapon systems are only good for compressing minerals.
Joelleaveek
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2011-09-18 05:59:06 UTC
Amarr Menza wrote:
what is Gallente?

Never heard of them


CCP alt?
Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
#32 - 2011-09-18 06:28:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Deviana Sevidon
Joss56 wrote:
Deviana Sevidon wrote:
Unfortunaly CCP will pretend the problem does not exist.

One of the reasons is, that it would indirectly mean the devs responsible for the balance have buffed missiles, projectile weapons and laser to much.

They could start by taking back the old resistance nerfs to shield and armor. Shields get 10% more explosive resistance and armor have +10% EM resistance again. Lasers would still be effective but would have a harder time against omni-tanked armor ships and minmatar projectile weapons would have more trouble with shield-ships. I would also recommend to make changes to EM ammo so that it deals more explo/kinetic and less EM to bring projectiles again in line with other weapons.



Well when you use numbers and only believe on those then you are blind to anything else.

So do graphics show hybrids being a good dps weapon system? -quite sure

Do raw numbers show blasters are omgfkingpown? - very sure

Do those graphics care about real game conditions? -impossible

Hybrids shoot stuff and kill stuff so, for them everything goes like intended.

For the meanwhile train minmatar, autocanons & artillery. Start having fun


I prefer to numbers, beliefs are for the church and I have also experience with autocannons and lasers. The numbers that many people showed each Gallente/Hybrid thread are correct and Gallente ships are in a lot of combat situations at a disadvantage. I do not say they are impossible to use, but certainly a worse choice then lasers or projectiles in almost any given situation.

....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced.

Trolls Troll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2011-09-18 06:30:24 UTC
Soundwave at Pax said they will probably maybe might possibly get a patch to look at them after Xmas.
Tarikla
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2011-09-18 12:33:46 UTC
Bumping .

Even an "we can't tell you when , but we are looking at it" would be nice :)
Alpheias
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#35 - 2011-09-18 12:44:50 UTC
Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database.

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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
#36 - 2011-09-18 12:59:52 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database.


you see, they have to fill out the change of number form in triplicate and submit it in-person to the mighty CCP database master. Unfortunately, he lives at the top of the tallest volcano in iceland, in a home accessible only by a mountainous path twice a year when the snows abate. Therefore, no balance changes ever.

haha, just kidding, they just have to press some buttons. Sucks to be us Cry
Alpheias
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#37 - 2011-09-18 13:04:56 UTC
Chaos Incarnate wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database.


you see, they have to fill out the change of number form in triplicate and submit it in-person to the mighty CCP database master. Unfortunately, he lives at the top of the tallest volcano in iceland, in a home accessible only by a mountainous path twice a year when the snows abate. Therefore, no balance changes ever.

haha, just kidding, they just have to press some buttons. Sucks to be us Cry


There needs to be a Followship of the Database. You have my trollface.jpg if you carry the burden.

PS. Why do you have more likes than I?Cry

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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
#38 - 2011-09-18 13:09:49 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Chaos Incarnate wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database.


you see, they have to fill out the change of number form in triplicate and submit it in-person to the mighty CCP database master. Unfortunately, he lives at the top of the tallest volcano in iceland, in a home accessible only by a mountainous path twice a year when the snows abate. Therefore, no balance changes ever.

haha, just kidding, they just have to press some buttons. Sucks to be us Cry


There needs to be a Followship of the Database. You have my trollface.jpg if you carry the burden.

PS. Why do you have more likes than I?Cry


Hey, do i look like a hobbit to you? I'm Aragorn, i get to bang the sexy elf and bring peace and prosperity to the realms of men.

(also, i have more likes because i'm a better poster, everyone knows it. Haha, just kidding, the likes system is useless)
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2011-09-18 13:10:04 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Chaos Incarnate wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database.


you see, they have to fill out the change of number form in triplicate and submit it in-person to the mighty CCP database master. Unfortunately, he lives at the top of the tallest volcano in iceland, in a home accessible only by a mountainous path twice a year when the snows abate. Therefore, no balance changes ever.

haha, just kidding, they just have to press some buttons. Sucks to be us Cry


There needs to be a Followship of the Database. You have my trollface.jpg if you carry the burden.

PS. Why do you have more likes than I?Cry



it's TEH FACE.


TROLLFACE.

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Alpheias
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#40 - 2011-09-18 13:12:31 UTC
Chaos Incarnate wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Chaos Incarnate wrote:
Alpheias wrote:
Because it takes CCP 10 months to change some numbers in the database.


you see, they have to fill out the change of number form in triplicate and submit it in-person to the mighty CCP database master. Unfortunately, he lives at the top of the tallest volcano in iceland, in a home accessible only by a mountainous path twice a year when the snows abate. Therefore, no balance changes ever.

haha, just kidding, they just have to press some buttons. Sucks to be us Cry


There needs to be a Followship of the Database. You have my trollface.jpg if you carry the burden.

PS. Why do you have more likes than I?Cry


Hey, do i look like a hobbit to you? I'm Aragorn, i get to bang the sexy elf and bring peace and prosperity to the realms of men.

(also, i have more likes because i'm a better poster, everyone knows it. Haha, just kidding, the likes system is useless)


And the sexy elf would be Milla, in bold yellow capital letters?

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.