EVE General Discussion

The navy npc should stay in game as they our part of the whole eve. If they go then what ccp our saying is Pod pilots are the empires only defence which does not fit in the story of eve.

Also as an alliance if you pick a side you have to choose as there is a penelty in high sec.

Ahhhh we had a misunderstanding there. I wasn't referring to enemy highsec, I was referring to the militia-controlled stations populating lowsec.

As others have pointed out though, we are not the force that protects the innermost Empire space….there is a distinct difference between the factional military, and the factional militia.

Unless they’re going to rewrite all the history (which they absolutely should if any of what you are proposing would ever come to pass) so that the factions are actually at war with each other, there is a specific reason that the militias only get to take their aggression out on each other in lowsec.

Officially, the four factions are at “peace” with each other, its only the die-hard militant paranoid patriots that carry on a war of their own, but have to do it away from the public view. Extending FW into highsec is a radical revamp of the very story that binds the EvE world together.

The REAL reason that we are a ways off from this (though it certainly has its merits) is that there just isn’t the population of FW participants to sustain extending the warzones to all of highsec.

We can barely cover all the lowsec territories we fight over, with the dwindling FW population that has shrunk due to apathy and frustration with CCP over unfixed mechanics and broken promises.

Extending the existing FW populations to all of highsec would spread us so thin its even harder to find fights. And being able to quickly and consistently log on, undock, and fight is the cornerstone of what FW is all about.

As I mentioned before, the FW community is different than your nullsec crowd because to us, easy fight access is our highest priority. You bring up very valid points about realistically how war should work, but the community as a whole has always been willing to sacrifice depth and realism for the ability to find quality, casual, PvP. This is what we are desperately trying to explain to the CSM and CCP, before they impose more 0.0-style complications on us as proposed in the recent summit minutes.

Until we are so overloaded with activity in lowsec that it causes problems, I see no advantage to spreading us out into high sec. Hopefully future FW improvements will build the population up to a point where your vision is viable.

You need to update point 3) on the first page. It is fixed in Crucible 1.1 (patch notes here http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?newpatchlogID=3382).

"Using assistance modules on a Factional Warfare buddy who is an outlaw or has a Global Criminal Flag will no longer result in a standings hit from your own faction"

Hmmm .. didn't they promise a blog where we would be able to see some of what they have planned beyond allowing blobs in?

Start counting, they are already a week late .. hahahahahaha.

Thinking of having a doctor remove my balls before the blue turns darker and gangrene sets in!

Also, apparently we have been "grumbling" a lot... and all I have to say in response is "yes, please touch us... touch us in the good places ;)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzR2FyJZTzg&feature=uploademail

You never know, CCP might even show up this time.

Faction War should also get free clones and if you die on duty you get a combat version of noob ship - worth losing, worth undocking in, not uber even by T1 standard. One you will PvP in, like it or not so if someone wants to contract them, the dummy buying it is a bullseye if he undocks.

- Based on Rank
Clone discount to clones are free.

- Based on Rank, replaced faction issue frigate, cruiser battleship. They can die but they are free. It will promote redonculous PvP inside the faction groups and will be ... get ready? Fun!!!

BTW, I'm extremely jealous. I wish I could be there to lead the charge. I'm sure you'll do an excellent job though, Har, you've been one of FW's most stalwart defenders. Keep in touch, I'll most certainly have a list of stuff for you to ask them on my behalf!! (Not that I have much to say besides stumping for the top issues in the thread).

I'll definitely check in on that thread when I have some time (still keeping with 789 other threads atm) and see whats being tossed around....but i'm not worried. We all want the same thing in the end, more or less.

I understand empire space as it is, the reduced potential gains are balanced by the greatly reduced risks, though one of you bloody annoying goons popped an alt of mine in a 1.0 system the other day. Things balance out for the most part. Yet, FW is a hybrid that CCP created, yet CCP has yet to truly understand. A slight buff to rats in low sec was a good start, but beyond that I had not heard of anything that can be considered an attempt by CCP to incentivise FW combat to the playerbase. IF CCP was as hellbent on having as much pvp as possible, and CCP likes to give more and more to those in 0.0 in an attempt to draw players out of empire space, and if pvp is part of the risk and reality of 0.0 gaming, then why not incentivize FW combat? Get the hardcore empire carebears that have never risked a single frigate, never lost a pod, never shot another player out of hate, anger, spite, rage, fear, or just pure fun in an attempt to destroy them into pvp by giving them reason to take a step in that direction. The worst part of pvp is taking that step of undocking to put your isk on the line, its not the actual loss of the ship, its that first step. Its far to easy to say " maybe tomorrow" or "when I make a few more million/billion isk" or " some day when I have the SP to compete". If they can stay in empire, have the chance of being shot and of shooting others, but having a safezone to retreat to, it could get more out of the their shell.

Of course, if CCP was as hellbent on pvp eveywhere and in every possible way, we wouldn't have to be posting about this. They would make it so that FW was seen as something to get into within a month or two of joining the game. I noticed that since I returned to the game and got dumped into an npc corp because the one i was in last folded while I was unable to get into the game due to a lack of shader 3, that I lose 11% of my isk to a corp tax. Thats a good way to nudge players to get into player corps so that they can be wardec'able. A reverse of something similar could be done to get more into FW, meaning more strictly PVE players into PVP, at least on a part time basis. Remove the tax for those in FW, those that operate within X many jumps from an empire's low sec gates. It could scale based on the depth of the player's position. A bonus could be given to FW players that rat or mission closer to 0.4 gates then those doing so in 1.0 systems. The closer to the front they are, the higher the chances of raid catching them off guard. Yet, those risks are balanced out by the additional gains being made by being near the front.

Those that are near the front but are not popped and profit will have more isk to risk in pvp. Anyone being a chicken but attempting to abuse the FW bennie will likely become a target eventually, but then again I remember seeing some serious chicken **** in 0.0 where players who were constantly seen farming all day continued to farm all day regardless of screams for help in various systems. Kind of surreal to hear about all this 0.0 crap of everyone having balls to pvp, yet cruising through in a BS I couldn't afford to lose to go support players I barely knew at all while cruising through the system and asking the farmers if they were heading out, if so I could wait for them because we could travel as a pack instead of just me at my best possible speed only for them to laugh it off and tell me that it wasn’t their problem.

I intend to keep them honest Having some clear things to discuss/explain to CCP would definately be of benefit.