EVE General Discussion

There were/are a lot of things about the skill training process that could be considered buggy/exploitative. Could you please tell us what the script was intended to do, and what the effects will be on examples of different kinds of accounts.

So let's look at a few examples:

1) PoorBro lost his job but has +4 implants on an alpha, do they still work? I think that's working as intended but it's still bullshit.

2) Dingbat has been training carriers 5 on his lapsed alpha for the last 180 days, but it started before his omega ended, what about him? Does he lose all 180 days, how about 150, etc?

3) SuperDingbat did the same thing but his carriers 5 started the day after his omega lapsed, now what?

4) CautiousYetStillSlightlyDouchey upgraded to omega and queued 29days of omegas and 60d of alpha skills, what happens to him. Let's say the first alpha skill was a 9-day skill and the rest were 5-day skills.... does he lose all the last 60d, or does he lose 52/60 days, or does he lose nothing? This most accurately describes what I've tried to do in the past but ... I fail hard at clicking so this whole sp thing turned out similar to PI for me (which is to say, I set everything up then let it rot).

5) SmartypantsMcDouchesEvenHarder got scared when reddit got pissed and so 3 days ago he rescued all his accounts. Maybe we should call him KingPin instead. Anyways, what happens to that guy?

quick edit: THANK YOU! This was game breaking bullsh*t bad gameplay. Thank you. But I still need to know the details. And thank you. :)

I was considering being conciliatory, but I have better things to do with my time, so I'm just going to go with this: You're wrong, below is why.

1: At no point has this been listed as an exploit, and although it's a bug and has been confirmed as such (though only recently), that isn't the same thing as a confirmed exploit.

2: It breaks no rules. At all. There haven't been any rules on this posted and so no rules have been broken. Your personal opinion on the magnitude of the "crime" is irrelevant. It isn't one as no rules have been broken.

3: How exactly would you separate it? Would you do it on people who unsubbed and then sold skills at any later date? What would your cut off be? Explain to us your foolproof method of finding every single person who benefited from what you consider "cheating" that guarantees not catching a single innocent person? I'll give you a hint. You cannot. You can give a statistical metric for what might be considered "suspicious" but ultimately it's not foolproof.

4: Unintended game mechanics happen fairly frequently in this game (and indeed all games) so should they be punished every single time someone benefits from them, whether they know they have or not?

WAAAAAH! I lost some sk... Oh, I'm getting it back?

The current skill I am training is soo long , it looked kind a off, but soo hard to tell. It was the app that gave it away for me.

Interestingly, ALL of my Omega accounts were paused. NONE of my Alpha accounts were paused.

In Dust 514 we lovingly referred to CCP as Can't Code Properly, is this a thing too in Eve?

Any chance people that exploited this are getting punished? :)

That would take a good ammount of ISK from the inflated market

I'm really glad you guys are trying to fix this, don't rush it make it a good fix so you don't have to return to it many times.I'm sure you know but many of the raging players are also expecting some kind of a punishment for that part of the players that abused this.If not all those with 100+ chars and/or those who ran it for long time should have atleast their wallets emptied after you guys determine for sure who took advantage of this.This will keep or bring back many of the legit players in the game.I'm sure you are aware what happens to games that allow large exploits to go unpunished.

If we distract them enough with these carrier nerfs maybe they'll forget...