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Anybody else remember the changes to moon mining? Oh yeah, you have to go mine them with a ship. Maybe, just maybe, you could mine those with your rorqual in between Colossal and Enormous respawn times. :thinking:

I'm quite happy with the changes, less work done by rorquals, and more as it should be by the actual mining ships.

As for the anom respawns, seems good, I wonder if we could get something similar in HS ? with a few fat HS ore anom instead of dozen of belts, a timer could be fine on them, so miners have to actually move more to get more ore. More ships moving here and there => more content imo, and not juste capital ships bullsh** in NS only.

CCP finance team: How to get people to use skill injectors/extractors.
let's make the Rorqual nobody uses overpowered so that thousands of nerds want it and want lots of alts with them, then we will slowly nerf it to hell so they extract all those skills.

Pretty true what they're doing. Whats the point of buffing something and nerfing it 5-10 times over the course of a year, don't be incompetent and release something that isn't compatible.

At this point it hurts people who dont multibox rorqs, 1 carrier worth 2 bill fully fit makes more than 1 rorq fit for 10-14bill fully fit with mining drones. A rorq after these changes may make 100m/hour which is laughable at the price. CCP did a major buff to get people to spend money to inject into rorqs and slow nerfs over time.

I like how goons think they're being targeting because they're goons and not just because they mine 7 trillion a month.

Might as well roll back all the Rorqual changes. People who have invested in skills can extract them and we can pretend it all never happened. Problem is not only that Rorqual mining is now restricted to certain mega alliances, but also that the mining volume in other regions has plunged and never recovered.

No I'm saying that they are looking at their bottom line, and the affects on their own income. If you look at the bigger picture, it's punishing anyone who even wants to try to catch up to the industrial might of Delve.

Let us say that we can pull in 7 trillion isk worth of minerals in Delve per month.

Conservatively, let us say that this cuts our output in half. Now we've had over 6 months of output at approx 7t (say it's 42T in raw ore)

Now that the max a reasonable organization can expect to pull is 3.5T (say half current rates) - it would take at least 12 months to match what we've pulled in over the past 6. And we can expect to continue to pull the same amount of ore (or more, there are many systems to cycle through, as almost every single system in Delve has max upgrades. Can you say the same for all the other regions out there?). There is now absolutely no way to catch up to our backlog of unprocessed raw ore. And since we can just cycle systems instead of stripping just the most valuable systems...

Goons:
Clear a colossal from 5 systems, each in an hour - go in a cycle between systems (they are all upgraded here). Non-stop mining.

Everyone else:
Clear a colossal from 1 system. Wait 5 hours, mine same one. Maybe get the safety to upgrade 1 or 2 other systems. Without the safety of going system to system in a chain.....

so because am massive amount of ccp playerbase live in delve you think its right to stifle everything ..
this is teh place that provides content for most other null sec pvpers . and delv occupants alike .

and the people in delv are all paying subs in some way or another .. so why is it a problem that thats where the most isk is generated ?

Man it'll be really funny when your renters realize what's going on and start screeching, huh?

Can we just burn all high-sec in protest, I hear that got someone's attention, burn high sec till they remove certain people from the power to change anything.

Yeah can we get a list of the systems that this is going to hit so we can avoid them.
This is crap.