Intergalactic Summit

So, there I was, somewhat rashly, having rented out a ground-car, and going for a spin in the desert, to get away from it all, and be able to think without distraction, when the car hit a rock and punctured the tyre.

I looked around, and there was nothing in sight except sand, and the occasional rock. So, I tied my dress to the car's radio mast, to act as a flag, and awaited rescue.

Lo, some time later, a ground car passed by, and came to a halt. The driver got out, and asked me if I was alright.

So, I said "Yes, fine. Say, do you know the way to Kaztropolis ?"

To which the other motorist said "Sorry, I'm a stranger here myself".

And with that, they departed.

Are they human beings?

Are they capable of rational thought?

Are they capable of empathy?

Do they want to be enslaved? To see their children under the lash?

What other 'learning' do you need?

You talk of reserving my hate for those who maintain the system... the system is maintained by the apathy of the common men and women of Amarr. Speak all you want about the terrible monsters keeping the masses down... but those monsters make up less than 0.001% of the Empire. The masses are kept down because the masses let themselves be 'kept down'. Because for all you plead oppression, the masses of Amarr still get to hold themselves better than a slave. The most menial drudge of a free Amarr holds himself above the most skilled and cared-for slave.

You seek to excuse the masses' apathy with feeble whining about 'they don't know any better'. They are human beings. They can see other human beings. They can imagine whether or not they would want to be slaves themselves. In every other major culture of New Eden, that is enough to say 'slavery is wrong'. But not in Amarr. Because the dregs, the poor, and the vermin at the bottom of Amarr society still get to tell themselves 'hey, at least I'm not a slave'.

The idea that they should need more persuasion than 'would you want that to be you?' is insane.

Then the world is insane. Setting empathy aside is at least as human as experiencing it.

Do you suffer the same misery as Miz does, Arrendis? Endlessly expecting the world to be more than it is?

If you don't, then maybe channeling her isn't a good idea.

I don't expect it, Aria... but that doesn't mean I can't hold it accountable for failing.

I'm pretty sure that as a muck-covered eight-year-old, crawling through ventilation shafts on a space station to work for hours a day, every day, on machinery that had to function or we died... I still understood 'you own your crap' and 'treat people the way you'd want to be treated'.

So don't go trying to pull that 'suuuuure, you're rich and a capsuleer' nonsense. It's just another line of crap you're selling to deflect from the idea that children know better than the adults you're trying to absolve.



'Don't get shot' doesn't sound like incentive?



And that is the crux of the problem, isn't it? You claim 'oh, it's not their fault, they're being lied to, the poor babies', and I say that's fedo droppings. They got their heads handed to them by the Jove, and they make common cause with the Caldari because they're afraid of being outgunned by the Federation. (And if you think they're only worried about 'the Federation + the Republic', then you're claiming the Republic is at least as strong as the State, something I'm pretty sure most State loyalists and just about every clear-eyed strategist in the cluster would find laughable).

That simple math says 'I guess you're not better than everyone else, huh?' Your 'god' is a joke. An all-powerful being who tells his people they're the chosen ones and then delivers them right into the teeth of not one, but two enemies they can't defeat, and doesn't lift a finger to stop them from losing fully two-thirds of the slaves they've taken because he told them to.

And if the Amarr aren't willing to acknowledge that because they're too lazy to bother to think? Because it's just 'easier' to not think about it? Then we're right back to tacit support for the atrocity, and an engraved 'Please, I want to be shot in the head'.



Well, you're the Amarr here, sister. Better get to fixing the problem from within, before we do have enough bullets.

... to clarify, I do not propose indiscriminate genocide. Do be careful of the hyperbole here. It's rarely recognized for what it is, which is why I am rather careful not to use it more than necessary. Implying genocide is the solution to aim for is not, and I'd be grateful if you didn't put those kinds of ridiculous words in my mouth Arrendis.

I feel they'd be no more likely to listen to a traitor and heretic than they would someone threatening to shoot them all. This change needs to come from those possessed of both faith and standing. If you have ideas to present beyond "shoot everyone" I'm all ears.

You've called for all-out war just in the last two weeks, Miz. And as we saw in that discussion from the replies other people had... that would mean people targeting civilian populations, and indiscriminate genocide. It may not be what you intend... but it's what you'll get.

Considering this is the "off topic" thread:

I somehow rolled out of bed while sleeping and hit my face on the floor. Quite a strange way to start off the (early) morning..

Of course. My bed doesn't sit too high, so it didn't hurt very bad.