Intergalactic Summit

Just to throw out a thought; they have a third of our people, they've had them for a long time as we all know and many have resigned to their fate. Our direct ancestors fought for their own freedom with help from outside forces such as the Gallante. They still fought themselves. They wanted their freedom and suffered the conflict that we all benefit from. No I am not saying "well, its their problem." Is fighting for their behalf going to make them want to reintegrate into their ancestral homes? Or would making what we have desirable enough to fight for? We have come a long way, we don't have a long way to go out of necessity but out of duty to show them its worth the struggle our ancestors fought to attain.

To clarify what I'm saying, would war really achieve our goals from the outside? Or would exposing a system rotting from within via example be the best course of action? Theres countless ways to strike your enemy, sometimes a haymaker doesn't work as effective as many jabs.

Decrees of Her Majesty Jamyl I have emancipated all slaves from 9th generation. Taking into account average age of childbirth as 30 years, that would be 270 years deep. We can round it to 300 years. Initial occupation of Minmatar worlds happened 700-800 years ago or so. This means that descendants of everyone who were enslaved during initial occupation are now emancipated. They are either normal citizens of the Empire or citizens of the Republic.

Who are then all these minmatar slaves who were left? It is quite simple: the Empire enslaves people for criminal offenses, and this extends to every bloodline, not just Minmatar. There are, of course, mostly Amarr, Minmatar and Khanid slaves - as they are bloodlines that are living (or were living before Minmatar Rebellion) on the territory of the Empire.

The Republic fought - and won its independence. And we, as Caldari, who have paid for our own independence with our blood, respect them for that. But these minmatars who left in the Empire - they aren't people of the Republic anymore. They are criminals, who serve their sentences. And those minmatars who go to war against the Empire to "free" them (in most cases - just kidnap), they are dishonorable and bullying folk, whom we cannot respect.

While yes what you said is true, they still were enslaving after the initial time you speak of, arguably even after they stopped ((i don't know if we're including mission related things)). It isn't that cut and dry.

I'd like to point out though that I don't justify initial invasion and enslavement of Minmatar tribes. It was as terrible as Elder's attack on Empire core world and the following war that Shakorites started against the Empire. But what happened to Minmatars - I can't really blame Amarr for that, since it happened so long ago, that everyone has died. Yet I can blame Minmatar now for attacking the Empire - since they are alive now.

As for the modern Empire enslavement policies - they are internal Amarr Empire matter, it is their criminal laws and their punishment system. Here in the State slavery is illegal and we don't like it. But it's not for us to say how they in the Empire should or should not regulate the behavior of citizens and visitors inside their territory.

We aren't gallente swines to start wars with neighbors because they used furniture that we don't approve.

It is unfortunate that the Empire took steps to enslave innocent peoples as part of assimilating the Empire.

Slavery in this regard is not purely an Imperial issue. Numerous criminal organization enslave for their own reasons. Like the aforementioned raiders.

Slavery is practiced by the Empire still. But again not what were like during our Reclaiming efforts. And certainly not for spiritual reasons.

But again, the Empire has not been at war specifically to reclaim and conquer for nearly 200 years. Those slaves that do remain serve as form incarceration against Imperial Law.

Oh don't even try that. I couldn't swing a dead slaver around this place without hitting nine people who've seen the exact same things I have. Imperial slaver fleets in our space. Breeding facilities. What the Empire was doing honestly back then is just happening under the lie of "Oh no no, it's illegal. Yup. Totes. We're not doing that!" now.

This is one of the reasons I truly loathe the Empire today, it can't even be honest about it.

My point is that now the Empire is not pursuing a campaign of wholesale slavery.

Nor does it officially endorse independent slavers that continue the trade.

As it has been pointed out the current Empress, an Industrialist will probably in engage in economic war with the Republic.

And all perfectly legal under the eyes of CONCORD.

I, for one, will not stand here while such outrageous acts are committed.




I shall instead be seated comfortably.

Might do them some good, a civil war.... but I may have some bias on that subject.

The "right side" is always a matter of perspective. I'd back the side that would profit my people most.